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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

    If anybody is wondering how this keeps happening, Google pull their AI output from Reddit. Somebody posted a Reddit thread saying days have fish in them, so now Google replies saying that. Google just blindly trusts any poster on Reddit (not a joke).

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    #63

    @GossiTheDog textbook poisoning of a GenAI model

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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      GenAI is going great (this is real)

      https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

      astar_7@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #64

      @GossiTheDog

      I literally just posted about a silly AI overview moment!

      https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@astar_7/116665127440028624

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      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

        GenAI is going great (this is real)

        https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

        thomy2000@fosstodon.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #65

        @GossiTheDog Haha, what a classic!

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          GenAI is going great (this is real)

          https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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          #66

          @GossiTheDog Kagi performs well but it's references are ones that address this exact reasoning trap. I tried with a different search that doesn't have sources for this logic trap and it was still successful. Go Kagi!

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            GenAI is going great (this is real)

            https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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            #67

            @GossiTheDog

            Well to be fair these three days are definitely kinda fishy /s

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            • cgudrian@social.tchncs.deC cgudrian@social.tchncs.de

              @GossiTheDog Wait until you see next year's calendars. Featuring Tuesfish, Wednesfish and Thursfish.

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              #68

              @cgudrian @GossiTheDog everyone knows Friday is Fishfryday. 😝

              magpieluvseeds@mastodon.socialM forthy42@mastodon.net2o.deF 2 Replies Last reply
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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                GenAI is going great (this is real)

                https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

                tom_huth@mastodon.onlineT This user is from outside of this forum
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                #69

                @GossiTheDog 🤣😵‍💫
                The golden age of AI is just around the corner 🤪

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                • wegegeld@toot.berlinW wegegeld@toot.berlin

                  @GossiTheDog ecosia reasons.

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                  #70

                  @wegegeld@toot.berlin @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social so how is this an "ecological" search engine, again?

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    GenAI is going great (this is real)

                    https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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                    #71

                    @GossiTheDog @cczona Lol and if they seem to have fixed it, make it say which ones

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                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                      GenAI is going great (this is real)

                      https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

                      jonathanavt@mastodon.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #72

                      @GossiTheDog Mine is more accurate. It says two days.

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                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                        If anybody is wondering how this keeps happening, Google pull their AI output from Reddit. Somebody posted a Reddit thread saying days have fish in them, so now Google replies saying that. Google just blindly trusts any poster on Reddit (not a joke).

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                        #73

                        @GossiTheDog

                        Friday is the most likely day to have fish in it. Especially during lent.

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          GenAI is going great (this is real)

                          https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

                          syklemil@snabelen.noS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #74

                          @GossiTheDog
                          wow, obvious misinformation

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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            GenAI is going great (this is real)

                            https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

                            fettlaus@social.tchncs.deF This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #75

                            @GossiTheDog Actually there are three days of the week that contain plants as well. (According to AI) The more you know...

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              GenAI is going great (this is real)

                              https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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                              #76

                              @GossiTheDog This really makes me miss Douglas Adams.

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                              • pmb00cs@mastodon.onlineP pmb00cs@mastodon.online

                                @GossiTheDog I can't see that ending badly, or involving lawyers, or anything.

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                                #77

                                @pmb00cs @GossiTheDog
                                Civil lawsuits over poisoning Google AI with deliberate Reddit posts?

                                Consider the case of no real name, no paid account(and thus bank records to prove ownership), no age verification, no registered/contract phone, no credit cards for airtime, no location sharing, ads and trackers blocked (no useful data broker info) and no landline.

                                A civil court subpeona to Reddit gets an IP address that resolves to a prepaid account managed with cash. No triangulation as this is not the police and triangulating all users all the time would triple the needed number of towers. No name, no payment info on the account or the IP address, and approximate location cannot determine which house on the block. No FBI contact analysis to determine the probable owner as this is a civil suit over a "nonpolitical" matter.

                                The lawsuit goes nowhere as no defendent can be found by means available to attorneys in civil court.

                                Been there myself: This was the Goldman-Sach's late 2010 case seeking an injunction against "SHAC" over their former HLS connections via Fortress Inc. I was never named even though I was well known to the cops, as the Goldman-Sachs attorneys did not have access to that information. I was the maker of the "Siege of Fortress" videos covering the protests, and seemingly everyone knew this except Goldman-Sach's law firm.

                                That injunction was overturned on appeal and $50K in legal fees awarded to our pro-bono attorney but that was another matter. Goldman-Sachs had to order Fortress to dump HLS or be dumped, and that was the beginning of the end for puppy-killing Huntingdon Life Sciences (HLS). It took another decade but HLS finally rolled over and sank.

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                                • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

                                  @wdormann @GossiTheDog

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                                  #78

                                  Point in case: truth.social.

                                  @theorangetheme @wdormann @GossiTheDog

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    GenAI is going great (this is real)

                                    https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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                                    #79

                                    @GossiTheDog it is even worse: the answers are also randomly wrong.

                                    And TIL F.I.S.H is spelled with an u.

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      GenAI is going great (this is real)

                                      https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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                                      #80

                                      @GossiTheDog It's learning. It's down to just Tuesday And Wednesday for me 👍

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                                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                        GenAI is going great (this is real)

                                        https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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                                        #81

                                        @GossiTheDog What on earth.

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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          GenAI is going great (this is real)

                                          https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+days+of+the+week+have+fish+in+them%3F&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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                                          #82

                                          @GossiTheDog I couldn’t get mine to suggest that but it came out with this… thing?

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