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  • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

    New, by me: Read This Before You Buy That TV Streaming Stick

    Security experts have been sounding the alarm for years about the risks of using generic TV boxes that promise unlimited content streaming for a one-time fee, warning that they secretly rent the user's Internet connection out to strangers. But a groundbreaking new analysis finds these devices also routinely spoof themselves as mobile phones clicking ads on AI-generated websites as part of sprawling operation that seeks to defraud online merchants and advertising networks.

    https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/07/read-this-before-you-buy-that-tv-streaming-stick/

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    #12

    @briankrebs To me, it sounds like they’re losing money on each device sale, knowing they can make the money back after the sale (“The secret ingredient is *crime*…”)

    I wonder if any of these sell at a price point that make a compelling argument for buying them to flash custom firmware for some other purpose.

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    • maya_b@hachyderm.ioM maya_b@hachyderm.io

      @adamshostack

      there's an ad "blocking" plugin for FF browsers called adnauseum - it doesn't show you ads but clicks on every link on a page and does the poisoning you speak of.

      @briankrebs

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      #13

      @maya_b Clicking ads, even if you don't see them, meant encouraging websites owners to put ads because clicked ads generate money and encourage surveillance capitalism, while leaking PII to crapvertising industry. Also, ads network have been spreading malwares and virus for years… Therefore, clicking randomly on ads is dangerous, especially when it's done automagically and massively (higher chance to get malwares)

      The only safe way to deal with ads is uBlock Origin.

      @adamshostack @briankrebs

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      • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

        New, by me: Read This Before You Buy That TV Streaming Stick

        Security experts have been sounding the alarm for years about the risks of using generic TV boxes that promise unlimited content streaming for a one-time fee, warning that they secretly rent the user's Internet connection out to strangers. But a groundbreaking new analysis finds these devices also routinely spoof themselves as mobile phones clicking ads on AI-generated websites as part of sprawling operation that seeks to defraud online merchants and advertising networks.

        https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/07/read-this-before-you-buy-that-tv-streaming-stick/

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        #14

        @briankrebs
        I can get behind defrauding advertising networks. 😛

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        • adamshostack@infosec.exchangeA adamshostack@infosec.exchange

          @briankrebs So you're saying there's pros and cons? 😇

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          #15

          @adamshostack yeah, but a cons is, you may be accused of committing a cybercrime someone did through this proxy

          @briankrebs

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          • mo@mastodon.mlM mo@mastodon.ml

            @adamshostack yeah, but a cons is, you may be accused of committing a cybercrime someone did through this proxy

            @briankrebs

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            #16

            @mo @adamshostack Well, IDK about getting accused, but your device almost certainly will at some point be leased by cybercriminals.

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            • adamshostack@infosec.exchangeA adamshostack@infosec.exchange

              @briankrebs So you're saying there's pros and cons? 😇

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              #17

              @adamshostack @briankrebs Cons? /s

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              • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                @mo @adamshostack Well, IDK about getting accused, but your device almost certainly will at some point be leased by cybercriminals.

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                #18

                @briankrebs you 100% would fall under suspicion, because traces would end at your house

                and then it depends, if cops want to find a real criminal, or just increase KPI without doing much work

                Where I live, I would never trust cops with this

                @adamshostack

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                • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                  New, by me: Read This Before You Buy That TV Streaming Stick

                  Security experts have been sounding the alarm for years about the risks of using generic TV boxes that promise unlimited content streaming for a one-time fee, warning that they secretly rent the user's Internet connection out to strangers. But a groundbreaking new analysis finds these devices also routinely spoof themselves as mobile phones clicking ads on AI-generated websites as part of sprawling operation that seeks to defraud online merchants and advertising networks.

                  https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/07/read-this-before-you-buy-that-tv-streaming-stick/

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                  #19

                  @briankrebs IOW they rent out your ip address as a residential proxy but they also defraud adtech companies, so who can tell if they're good or bad?

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                  • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                    A couple of teasers from the story:

                    Bitsight found the H96 devices were either relaying residential proxy traffic or participating in ad fraud, but never both at the same time. In fact, they concluded that when these TV boxes detect an HDMI signal from an attached television — indicating the user intends to stream video content — the box is usually functioning as a residential proxy. When the TV is off, it switches back to waiting for ad fraud jobs.

                    Falé said the Fengwo Group’s domain shared its SSL certificate data with other domains associated with the apps found on H96 devices, specifically the phone spoofing mechanism. He noted the domain also has an internal wiki platform that directly ties the Fengwo Group to a proprietary implementation of a Google-built visual programming language called Blockly, which was originally designed to help kids learn how to write software.

                    According to Bitsight, the Fengwo Group’s employees use Blockly to build the sham websites, allowing low-skilled operators to drag blocks of code together in their Blockly editor — without any need to understand what the underlying code blocks do or how they work.

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                    #20

                    @briankrebs Oooh even better! So if you just don't attach them to a TV, they do adtech fraud fulltime! Where do we sign up?

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                    • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                      @briankrebs Oooh even better! So if you just don't attach them to a TV, they do adtech fraud fulltime! Where do we sign up?

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                      #21

                      @dalias @briankrebs i'll take 100

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                      • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                        @briankrebs IOW they rent out your ip address as a residential proxy but they also defraud adtech companies, so who can tell if they're good or bad?

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                        #22

                        @dalias it is said you can tell the quality of a tree by its fruit, and by that yardstick the fruit is primarily traffic tied to account takeover attempts, ad fraud, mass content scraping for AI projects, or outright cybercrime.

                        The residential proxy services enabled by these devices are sold and resold under a number of agreements, and some have multiple proxy SDKs funneling traffic. And these devices are a shitshow on security because the underlying hardware has not even basic authentication requirements.

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                        • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                          New, by me: Read This Before You Buy That TV Streaming Stick

                          Security experts have been sounding the alarm for years about the risks of using generic TV boxes that promise unlimited content streaming for a one-time fee, warning that they secretly rent the user's Internet connection out to strangers. But a groundbreaking new analysis finds these devices also routinely spoof themselves as mobile phones clicking ads on AI-generated websites as part of sprawling operation that seeks to defraud online merchants and advertising networks.

                          https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/07/read-this-before-you-buy-that-tv-streaming-stick/

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                          #23

                          @briankrebs
                          Nice article.
                          Just no end to people inventing new products to abuse consumers.

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                          • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                            New, by me: Read This Before You Buy That TV Streaming Stick

                            Security experts have been sounding the alarm for years about the risks of using generic TV boxes that promise unlimited content streaming for a one-time fee, warning that they secretly rent the user's Internet connection out to strangers. But a groundbreaking new analysis finds these devices also routinely spoof themselves as mobile phones clicking ads on AI-generated websites as part of sprawling operation that seeks to defraud online merchants and advertising networks.

                            https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/07/read-this-before-you-buy-that-tv-streaming-stick/

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                            #24

                            @briankrebs

                            Dang it! Sometimes being a procrastinating elderly Luddite does have a silver lining. I still have a mechanical answering machine and a copper wire DC (POTS) landline rotary phone stuck to the kitchen wall. No sticks, no V-mo, no streaming.

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                            • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                              A couple of teasers from the story:

                              Bitsight found the H96 devices were either relaying residential proxy traffic or participating in ad fraud, but never both at the same time. In fact, they concluded that when these TV boxes detect an HDMI signal from an attached television — indicating the user intends to stream video content — the box is usually functioning as a residential proxy. When the TV is off, it switches back to waiting for ad fraud jobs.

                              Falé said the Fengwo Group’s domain shared its SSL certificate data with other domains associated with the apps found on H96 devices, specifically the phone spoofing mechanism. He noted the domain also has an internal wiki platform that directly ties the Fengwo Group to a proprietary implementation of a Google-built visual programming language called Blockly, which was originally designed to help kids learn how to write software.

                              According to Bitsight, the Fengwo Group’s employees use Blockly to build the sham websites, allowing low-skilled operators to drag blocks of code together in their Blockly editor — without any need to understand what the underlying code blocks do or how they work.

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                              #25

                              @briankrebs Reminding us once again that ad fraud is the best fraud because the people who could stop it don't because it makes them money too!

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                              • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                @briankrebs Oooh even better! So if you just don't attach them to a TV, they do adtech fraud fulltime! Where do we sign up?

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                                #26
                                @dalias @briankrebs Kind of thing where it could make sense to get one to publish the IPs they're controlling it from, plus any sort of protocol fingerprints.
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                                • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                  New, by me: Read This Before You Buy That TV Streaming Stick

                                  Security experts have been sounding the alarm for years about the risks of using generic TV boxes that promise unlimited content streaming for a one-time fee, warning that they secretly rent the user's Internet connection out to strangers. But a groundbreaking new analysis finds these devices also routinely spoof themselves as mobile phones clicking ads on AI-generated websites as part of sprawling operation that seeks to defraud online merchants and advertising networks.

                                  https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/07/read-this-before-you-buy-that-tv-streaming-stick/

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                                  #27

                                  @briankrebs Nothing good come out this AI generated bullshit while people losing jobs and their work is stolen by AI companies.

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                                  • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                    New, by me: Read This Before You Buy That TV Streaming Stick

                                    Security experts have been sounding the alarm for years about the risks of using generic TV boxes that promise unlimited content streaming for a one-time fee, warning that they secretly rent the user's Internet connection out to strangers. But a groundbreaking new analysis finds these devices also routinely spoof themselves as mobile phones clicking ads on AI-generated websites as part of sprawling operation that seeks to defraud online merchants and advertising networks.

                                    https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/07/read-this-before-you-buy-that-tv-streaming-stick/

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                                    #28

                                    @briankrebs the clickfraud is a nice feature, but pretty shady overall

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                                    • adamshostack@infosec.exchangeA adamshostack@infosec.exchange

                                      @briankrebs So you're saying there's pros and cons? 😇

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                                      #29

                                      @adamshostack @briankrebs yes, it does seem to be an operation run by pro cons.

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                                      • tessarakt@mastodon.socialT tessarakt@mastodon.social

                                        @briankrebs Defrauding advertising networks? That doesn't sound so bad.

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                                        #30

                                        @tessarakt @briankrebs defrauding ad customers sounds worse: some of those are bottom-feeders selling dreck but almost every small business owner I've heard from has stories about paying for online ads, burning through their budget, and seeing absolutely no impact on sales. No matter how you feel about ads in general, that's not sending money to deserving parties and the ad networks still get their cut.

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                                        • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

                                          @dalias @briankrebs i'll take 100

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                                          #31

                                          @ariadne @dalias @briankrebs Me, too!

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