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  • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

    New, by me: Read This Before You Buy That TV Streaming Stick

    Security experts have been sounding the alarm for years about the risks of using generic TV boxes that promise unlimited content streaming for a one-time fee, warning that they secretly rent the user's Internet connection out to strangers. But a groundbreaking new analysis finds these devices also routinely spoof themselves as mobile phones clicking ads on AI-generated websites as part of sprawling operation that seeks to defraud online merchants and advertising networks.

    https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/07/read-this-before-you-buy-that-tv-streaming-stick/

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    #27

    @briankrebs Nothing good come out this AI generated bullshit while people losing jobs and their work is stolen by AI companies.

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    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

      New, by me: Read This Before You Buy That TV Streaming Stick

      Security experts have been sounding the alarm for years about the risks of using generic TV boxes that promise unlimited content streaming for a one-time fee, warning that they secretly rent the user's Internet connection out to strangers. But a groundbreaking new analysis finds these devices also routinely spoof themselves as mobile phones clicking ads on AI-generated websites as part of sprawling operation that seeks to defraud online merchants and advertising networks.

      https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/07/read-this-before-you-buy-that-tv-streaming-stick/

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      #28

      @briankrebs the clickfraud is a nice feature, but pretty shady overall

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      • adamshostack@infosec.exchangeA adamshostack@infosec.exchange

        @briankrebs So you're saying there's pros and cons? 😇

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        #29

        @adamshostack @briankrebs yes, it does seem to be an operation run by pro cons.

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        • tessarakt@mastodon.socialT tessarakt@mastodon.social

          @briankrebs Defrauding advertising networks? That doesn't sound so bad.

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          #30

          @tessarakt @briankrebs defrauding ad customers sounds worse: some of those are bottom-feeders selling dreck but almost every small business owner I've heard from has stories about paying for online ads, burning through their budget, and seeing absolutely no impact on sales. No matter how you feel about ads in general, that's not sending money to deserving parties and the ad networks still get their cut.

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          • ariadne@social.treehouse.systemsA ariadne@social.treehouse.systems

            @dalias @briankrebs i'll take 100

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            #31

            @ariadne @dalias @briankrebs Me, too!

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            • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

              New, by me: Read This Before You Buy That TV Streaming Stick

              Security experts have been sounding the alarm for years about the risks of using generic TV boxes that promise unlimited content streaming for a one-time fee, warning that they secretly rent the user's Internet connection out to strangers. But a groundbreaking new analysis finds these devices also routinely spoof themselves as mobile phones clicking ads on AI-generated websites as part of sprawling operation that seeks to defraud online merchants and advertising networks.

              https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/07/read-this-before-you-buy-that-tv-streaming-stick/

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              #32

              @briankrebs I love seeing ad supported parasite apps and devices start eating each other. With luck this will lead to corporate execs doing time, getting a small taste of what we would get if we cloned their phones for free service and got caught.

              Stuff like this though does make me glad I don't watch TV at all though.

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              • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                New, by me: Read This Before You Buy That TV Streaming Stick

                Security experts have been sounding the alarm for years about the risks of using generic TV boxes that promise unlimited content streaming for a one-time fee, warning that they secretly rent the user's Internet connection out to strangers. But a groundbreaking new analysis finds these devices also routinely spoof themselves as mobile phones clicking ads on AI-generated websites as part of sprawling operation that seeks to defraud online merchants and advertising networks.

                https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/07/read-this-before-you-buy-that-tv-streaming-stick/

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                #33

                I wonder if there's any F/OSS firmware you can flash onto a cheap streaming stick like you can do with GrapheneOS for phones or OpenWRT for routers. (Of course, there's always just a PC running Linux.)

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                • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                  New, by me: Read This Before You Buy That TV Streaming Stick

                  Security experts have been sounding the alarm for years about the risks of using generic TV boxes that promise unlimited content streaming for a one-time fee, warning that they secretly rent the user's Internet connection out to strangers. But a groundbreaking new analysis finds these devices also routinely spoof themselves as mobile phones clicking ads on AI-generated websites as part of sprawling operation that seeks to defraud online merchants and advertising networks.

                  https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/07/read-this-before-you-buy-that-tv-streaming-stick/

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                  #34

                  @briankrebs Brian, My in-laws' 👴🏼 👵🏼 swear by it.🤷🏼 I told em, they don't care as long as they can watch📺 Grace and Frankie, The Great British Baking Show, and The Crown 4 free.🤦🏼

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                  • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                    New, by me: Read This Before You Buy That TV Streaming Stick

                    Security experts have been sounding the alarm for years about the risks of using generic TV boxes that promise unlimited content streaming for a one-time fee, warning that they secretly rent the user's Internet connection out to strangers. But a groundbreaking new analysis finds these devices also routinely spoof themselves as mobile phones clicking ads on AI-generated websites as part of sprawling operation that seeks to defraud online merchants and advertising networks.

                    https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/07/read-this-before-you-buy-that-tv-streaming-stick/

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                    #35

                    @briankrebs We used a "real" FireStick but I still don't trust it. Makes me really glad that our whole TV/stereo setup is on a switched outlet and stays off when not in use.

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                    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                      New, by me: Read This Before You Buy That TV Streaming Stick

                      Security experts have been sounding the alarm for years about the risks of using generic TV boxes that promise unlimited content streaming for a one-time fee, warning that they secretly rent the user's Internet connection out to strangers. But a groundbreaking new analysis finds these devices also routinely spoof themselves as mobile phones clicking ads on AI-generated websites as part of sprawling operation that seeks to defraud online merchants and advertising networks.

                      https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/07/read-this-before-you-buy-that-tv-streaming-stick/

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                      #36
                      @briankrebs "ad fraud" is just botnets fighting one another, change my mind
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                      • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                        New, by me: Read This Before You Buy That TV Streaming Stick

                        Security experts have been sounding the alarm for years about the risks of using generic TV boxes that promise unlimited content streaming for a one-time fee, warning that they secretly rent the user's Internet connection out to strangers. But a groundbreaking new analysis finds these devices also routinely spoof themselves as mobile phones clicking ads on AI-generated websites as part of sprawling operation that seeks to defraud online merchants and advertising networks.

                        https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/07/read-this-before-you-buy-that-tv-streaming-stick/

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                        #37

                        @briankrebs so I get to watch free movies *and* it autonomously fucks with the ad ecosystem *and* I get free plausible deniability for when something fishy happens in my network? ngl that doesn't actually sound that bad 🤣

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                        • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                          New, by me: Read This Before You Buy That TV Streaming Stick

                          Security experts have been sounding the alarm for years about the risks of using generic TV boxes that promise unlimited content streaming for a one-time fee, warning that they secretly rent the user's Internet connection out to strangers. But a groundbreaking new analysis finds these devices also routinely spoof themselves as mobile phones clicking ads on AI-generated websites as part of sprawling operation that seeks to defraud online merchants and advertising networks.

                          https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/07/read-this-before-you-buy-that-tv-streaming-stick/

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                          #38

                          @briankrebs you mean the AI generated traffic and websites clicks on the AI generated ads for AI generated products no-one really wants?

                          Can anyone hear a tiny violin playing somewhere?

                          But yes, these are dodgy cos of the DDOS and hacking botnets they bolster. Real cybercrime unlike ad fraud.

                          But I aint crying about Google losing revenue...or really most online merchants. They are mostly all shady IME.

                          (I used to work in the online ad industry so know my way around Doubleclick et al. And the morals and ethics of that industry are corrupt at best).

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                          • devnull@mamot.frD devnull@mamot.fr

                            @maya_b Clicking ads, even if you don't see them, meant encouraging websites owners to put ads because clicked ads generate money and encourage surveillance capitalism, while leaking PII to crapvertising industry. Also, ads network have been spreading malwares and virus for years… Therefore, clicking randomly on ads is dangerous, especially when it's done automagically and massively (higher chance to get malwares)

                            The only safe way to deal with ads is uBlock Origin.

                            @adamshostack @briankrebs

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                            #39

                            @devnull @maya_b @adamshostack @briankrebs

                            This is the way. I was using Ublock back to when I was working in online advertising! Embarassing sometimes when the client was wondering why the advert wasn't showing and it was my blocking plugin...

                            ...but can confirm, industry is shady af. Block EVERYTHING.

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                            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                              @briankrebs Nothing good come out this AI generated bullshit while people losing jobs and their work is stolen by AI companies.

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                              #40

                              @nixCraft @briankrebs I dunno, I used to work in that industry and I say AI robot master overlords, please completely annhilate it.

                              I am pro creative, pro artist, anti-AI - but the online ad industry was one of the most shady, toxic, unethical and soul-destroying jobs as a freelance creative.

                              Some industries SHOULD be burned to the ground. SEO is one, that's another.

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                                #41

                                @tanavit @leeloo @briankrebs no not really, they pay a certain CPC (cost per click), according to the campaign, it just means the campaign will tank but they don't pay more than what they've allocated.

                                It just maybe reduces the company's reach - which depends what it is, might be a good thing.

                                Coca Cola, McD's and other companies supporting Israel or junk food/products etc - good. Waste their money. They are evil.

                                Smaller companies less good, but I'd guess they'd target the bigger accounts cos it wouldn't be worth setting up for a small campaign.

                                The company will allocate a certain ad spend then use it up, regardless. So I don't think prices will go up. They might go down actually as they try to attract more people if their advertising fails. More people doesn't necessarily mean lower prices. Usually the opposite, more people means trying to increase profit margins, rather than reduce prices at scale.

                                Capitalism!

                                Source: used to work in online advertising.

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                                • radioclash@retro.pizzaR radioclash@retro.pizza

                                  @devnull @maya_b @adamshostack @briankrebs

                                  This is the way. I was using Ublock back to when I was working in online advertising! Embarassing sometimes when the client was wondering why the advert wasn't showing and it was my blocking plugin...

                                  ...but can confirm, industry is shady af. Block EVERYTHING.

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                                  #42

                                  @radioclash @devnull @adamshostack @briankrebs

                                  I actually use private sinkhole blocking DNS on my LAN so neither ublock or adnauseum actually have much to do.

                                  I also use cookie auto delete plugin and anything that isn't whitelisted has their cookies deleted pretty much once the page is closed. Plus container browsing - so I only use their services in their isolated browser container.

                                  I basically never see ads and when I see them on other people's machines I'm amazed they can used the web like that.

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                                  • maya_b@hachyderm.ioM maya_b@hachyderm.io

                                    @radioclash @devnull @adamshostack @briankrebs

                                    I actually use private sinkhole blocking DNS on my LAN so neither ublock or adnauseum actually have much to do.

                                    I also use cookie auto delete plugin and anything that isn't whitelisted has their cookies deleted pretty much once the page is closed. Plus container browsing - so I only use their services in their isolated browser container.

                                    I basically never see ads and when I see them on other people's machines I'm amazed they can used the web like that.

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                                    #43

                                    @maya_b @devnull @adamshostack @briankrebs I used to use Cookie but I think it's expired now - so need to look at other ways. The fact it kept weirdly failing and deleting the wrong whitelisted cookies was a faff though. But it's a good thing.

                                    I do have some of that stuff - Privacy Badger, Ublock Origin with lots of cookie nuisance and extra lists, and adblocking via my VPN which I usually use- but the latter causes some very weird problems.

                                    That said I rarely see ads, only on Twitch streams or sometimes YouTube....stream ads are harder to block.

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                                    • radioclash@retro.pizzaR radioclash@retro.pizza

                                      @maya_b @devnull @adamshostack @briankrebs I used to use Cookie but I think it's expired now - so need to look at other ways. The fact it kept weirdly failing and deleting the wrong whitelisted cookies was a faff though. But it's a good thing.

                                      I do have some of that stuff - Privacy Badger, Ublock Origin with lots of cookie nuisance and extra lists, and adblocking via my VPN which I usually use- but the latter causes some very weird problems.

                                      That said I rarely see ads, only on Twitch streams or sometimes YouTube....stream ads are harder to block.

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                                      #44

                                      @radioclash

                                      Yea I have a pihole DNS server, but also trying out technitium DNS as well - both seem pretty solid and making sure nothing gets through.

                                      technitium is also a recursive DNS server that goes all the way back to the main nameserver for a site and doesn't just cache the nearest server it finds up the chain.

                                      so instead of letting google or cloudflare (8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.1 respectively) know where you're going, you can hide that extra bit of information as well

                                      @devnull @adamshostack @briankrebs

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                                      • acdha@code4lib.socialA acdha@code4lib.social

                                        @tessarakt @briankrebs defrauding ad customers sounds worse: some of those are bottom-feeders selling dreck but almost every small business owner I've heard from has stories about paying for online ads, burning through their budget, and seeing absolutely no impact on sales. No matter how you feel about ads in general, that's not sending money to deserving parties and the ad networks still get their cut.

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                                        #45

                                        @acdha @tessarakt @briankrebs click fraud is endemic in the industry. if they are foolish enough to pay for CPC without researching it, after many many scandals including the ad networks (Google!) getting caught ripping folks off...

                                        ...then I really don't feel sad for them.

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                                        • maya_b@hachyderm.ioM maya_b@hachyderm.io

                                          @radioclash

                                          Yea I have a pihole DNS server, but also trying out technitium DNS as well - both seem pretty solid and making sure nothing gets through.

                                          technitium is also a recursive DNS server that goes all the way back to the main nameserver for a site and doesn't just cache the nearest server it finds up the chain.

                                          so instead of letting google or cloudflare (8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.1 respectively) know where you're going, you can hide that extra bit of information as well

                                          @devnull @adamshostack @briankrebs

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                                          #46

                                          @maya_b @devnull @adamshostack @briankrebs

                                          I have thoight about doing that, but wonder about lag?

                                          Sadly my router atm isn't OpenWRT but I think it can be? But I've not dared try to flash it. But I think you can do stuff like that on there if you do.

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