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  • lillyherself@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    A good coat is a good coat, no matter who is wearing it.

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    • lillyherself@mastodon.socialL lillyherself@mastodon.social

      A good coat is a good coat, no matter who is wearing it.

      pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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      @LillyHerself
      a good coat is a #cruelyfree coat. don't buy #wool.

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      • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

        @LillyHerself
        a good coat is a #cruelyfree coat. don't buy #wool.

        lillyherself@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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        @pelle What's the alternative? Buy acrylic, polyester etc, all made from fossil fuels? And those fibres, unlike wool, are not biodegradable.
        Cotton which uses such huge amounts of water?

        Remember that you don't have to kill a sheep to use its wool. Note also, that sheep are not usually farmed under factory farm conditions, they graze out of doors, usually in areas with too poor soil to grow food.

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        • lillyherself@mastodon.socialL lillyherself@mastodon.social

          @pelle What's the alternative? Buy acrylic, polyester etc, all made from fossil fuels? And those fibres, unlike wool, are not biodegradable.
          Cotton which uses such huge amounts of water?

          Remember that you don't have to kill a sheep to use its wool. Note also, that sheep are not usually farmed under factory farm conditions, they graze out of doors, usually in areas with too poor soil to grow food.

          pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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          @LillyHerself
          some alternatives are bamboo, linnen and hemp.

          is it better that they torture the sheep while they're alive?

          some rabbit fur and goose feather products are advertised as "better animal welfare" when they kill the animals before they extract their feathers or fur.

          anyway, eventually, the sheep in the wool industry are being killed. buying wool directly pays for animal abuse and helps subsidize the sheep flesh business.

          if we want to prevent animal cruelty, a good start is to stop paying for, using and consuming animal products.

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          • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

            @LillyHerself
            some alternatives are bamboo, linnen and hemp.

            is it better that they torture the sheep while they're alive?

            some rabbit fur and goose feather products are advertised as "better animal welfare" when they kill the animals before they extract their feathers or fur.

            anyway, eventually, the sheep in the wool industry are being killed. buying wool directly pays for animal abuse and helps subsidize the sheep flesh business.

            if we want to prevent animal cruelty, a good start is to stop paying for, using and consuming animal products.

            lillyherself@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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            @pelle Everything eventually dies. I suggest you follow some actual sheep farmers to see their nature-harmonious lives, how much they love their sheep and take care of them.
            Mastodon is not a place for preaching.

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            • lillyherself@mastodon.socialL lillyherself@mastodon.social

              @pelle What's the alternative? Buy acrylic, polyester etc, all made from fossil fuels? And those fibres, unlike wool, are not biodegradable.
              Cotton which uses such huge amounts of water?

              Remember that you don't have to kill a sheep to use its wool. Note also, that sheep are not usually farmed under factory farm conditions, they graze out of doors, usually in areas with too poor soil to grow food.

              jackeric@beige.partyJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              @LillyHerself @pelle we should exclusively wear garments manufactured from the hair of people's high horses

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              • lillyherself@mastodon.socialL lillyherself@mastodon.social

                @pelle Everything eventually dies. I suggest you follow some actual sheep farmers to see their nature-harmonious lives, how much they love their sheep and take care of them.
                Mastodon is not a place for preaching.

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                #7

                @LillyHerself
                > Mastodon is not a place for preaching.

                why you preaching anti-fascism from your profile text then?

                > Everything eventually dies.

                sure, but that does not make killing okay, does it?

                weird to see self-described anti-fascist being pro-murder.

                scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.

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                • jackeric@beige.partyJ jackeric@beige.party

                  @LillyHerself @pelle we should exclusively wear garments manufactured from the hair of people's high horses

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                  @jackeric
                  i hear ilse koch's new designs are available at a discount.

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                  • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                    @jackeric
                    i hear ilse koch's new designs are available at a discount.

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                    @pelle are you actually a vegan, or a parody trying to discredit veganism

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                    • jackeric@beige.partyJ jackeric@beige.party

                      @pelle are you actually a vegan, or a parody trying to discredit veganism

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                      @jackeric
                      oh silly me. i forgot i was supposed to be a pick-me vegan and pander to aninal abusers to avoid vegabism being discredited, and now i have caused you to eat twice as many aninals because you were offended.

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                      • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                        @jackeric
                        oh silly me. i forgot i was supposed to be a pick-me vegan and pander to aninal abusers to avoid vegabism being discredited, and now i have caused you to eat twice as many aninals because you were offended.

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                        @pelle just keep doing what you're doing, I'm sure the smugness is comforting

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                        • jackeric@beige.partyJ jackeric@beige.party

                          @pelle just keep doing what you're doing, I'm sure the smugness is comforting

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                          @jackeric
                          wtf is wrong with you?

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                          • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                            @jackeric
                            wtf is wrong with you?

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                            @pelle not sure someone who considers wearing wool to be comparable to supporting the Holocaust has a sense of right and wrong worth talking about

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                            • jackeric@beige.partyJ jackeric@beige.party

                              @pelle not sure someone who considers wearing wool to be comparable to supporting the Holocaust has a sense of right and wrong worth talking about

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                              @jackeric what is a factory farm, if not a concentration camp for animals? The most obvious difference I see, is that the Germans didn't keep breeding more Jews after killing some of them
                              @pelle

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                              • punissuer@universeodon.comP punissuer@universeodon.com

                                @jackeric what is a factory farm, if not a concentration camp for animals? The most obvious difference I see, is that the Germans didn't keep breeding more Jews after killing some of them
                                @pelle

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                                @punissuer @pelle yes, do continue equating non-veganism with Nazism, it's very persuasive and not a level of parody that would be rejected by South Park's writers as too absurd

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                                • jackeric@beige.partyJ jackeric@beige.party

                                  @punissuer @pelle yes, do continue equating non-veganism with Nazism, it's very persuasive and not a level of parody that would be rejected by South Park's writers as too absurd

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                                  #16

                                  @jackeric
                                  it's not an uncommon or far-out comparison.

                                  editor-in-chief of #currentaffairs, nathan robinson, writes about it in »meat and the h-word«
                                  https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2018/01/meat-and-the-h-word

                                  holocaust-survivor isaac bashevis singer wrote:
                                  »In relation to animals, all people are Nazis; for the animals, it is an eternal Treblinka.«

                                  earlier this year, another holocaust survivor, dr. alex hershaft, makes the comparison on this podcast, https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/gilesdesign/episodes/the-one-about-a-holocaust-survivor-e2v409s

                                  of course it is not a 1:1 comparison, but there are overlaps:

                                  • transporting prisoners in »cattle cars«,
                                  • mass killings in gas chambers,
                                  • using the skin and hair of others for clothing and furniture (as we discussed above)

                                  for investigative documentaries about the CO₂ gas chambers where pigs are painfully suffocated, see joey carbstrong's #pignorant from last year, or check https://watchdominion.com

                                  when others write about the horrors of animal abuse industries and slaughterhouses, and you see it as a joke that is too absurd for south park, you come across as a person who is as much in denial as zionists are about the gaza genocide.

                                  you are likely to flip 180° from denial to glee from the killing.

                                  it is not our job to be »persuasive« by pandering to your hurt carnist feelings, like antifa don't take directions from nazis on how to speak.

                                  if you can't even convince yourself to not deliberately abuse animals for your taste and fashion preferences, your advice on being »persuasive« is not worth much, is it?

                                  stop being an oppressor. go vegan.

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