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  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

    @pixx @davidgerard yep, you commented without reading. thanks for clearing that up

    and you’re still not reading in any depth

    > Green, the YouTube star who did a paid post with ControlAI for his science channel, said in a statement that he wants to give his viewers a better understanding of this increasingly powerful technology by exposing them to a variety of views on AI. He pointed to recent unsponsored interviews on his personal YouTube channel that included critics of AI company hype, Sen. Sanders and one of the co-authors of “If Anyone Builds It, Everybody Dies.”

    green is in a partnership with ControlAI that produced one sponsored video and an ongoing series of “unsponsored” (a term of art meaning there’s no sponsored tag or company logo on the video) videos with major EA figureheads pushing an AI doom framing. these aren’t critics of AI company hype, they are the hype.

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    @pixx @davidgerard this is green confessing to taking money from ControlAI, a wealthy political organization, to falsely represent AI doom as science. if you see that and don’t see a problem, American public school failed to prepare you for grown up reading.

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    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

      hey so about your favorite boy hank green. it’s such a shame that he went overboard with the LLM stuff, that was impossible to see coming, good on him for realizing he was addicted right? well wishes for the good boy!

      anyway there’s smoking gun evidence that he was paid by effective altruists to do marketing for the “AI is so dangerous but so revolutionary” flavor of critihype. this is alleged by hank green expert hank green in the washington post, as well as an EA in charge of influencer marketing. he was literally being paid by TESCREALs.

      someone in the same community ran a program where TikTokers were required to post an AI critihype video a day in a cult-like environment where they were subjected to “voluntary” waterboarding and other forms of indoctrination. I’m not kidding, this literal thing happened.

      here’s @davidgerard’s pivot to AI with the evidence linked: https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/08/06/the-ai-doomsday-cult-recruits-social-media-influencers/

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      #142

      @davidgerard by the way, I’d like to highlight something from Green’s statement in the Washington Post because it’s worse in context and I want to make sure everyone has that context:

      > Green, the YouTube star who did a paid post with ControlAI for his science channel, said in a statement that he wants to give his viewers a better understanding of this increasingly powerful technology by exposing them to a variety of views on AI. He pointed to recent unsponsored interviews on his personal YouTube channel that included critics of AI company hype, Sen. Sanders and one of the co-authors of “If Anyone Builds It, Everybody Dies.”

      ControlAI is a wealthy political entity in the effective altruist sphere, and Green took their money in order to present their AI doom marketing as both science and as legitimate criticism of AI. given that AI doom presupposes the impending creation of an AI god and is the preferred framing of the AI companies themselves, it is neither science nor critique.

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      • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

        @davidgerard by the way, I’d like to highlight something from Green’s statement in the Washington Post because it’s worse in context and I want to make sure everyone has that context:

        > Green, the YouTube star who did a paid post with ControlAI for his science channel, said in a statement that he wants to give his viewers a better understanding of this increasingly powerful technology by exposing them to a variety of views on AI. He pointed to recent unsponsored interviews on his personal YouTube channel that included critics of AI company hype, Sen. Sanders and one of the co-authors of “If Anyone Builds It, Everybody Dies.”

        ControlAI is a wealthy political entity in the effective altruist sphere, and Green took their money in order to present their AI doom marketing as both science and as legitimate criticism of AI. given that AI doom presupposes the impending creation of an AI god and is the preferred framing of the AI companies themselves, it is neither science nor critique.

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        #143

        @zzt @davidgerard Well, fuck him. He's dead to me.

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        • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

          @davidgerard by the way, I’d like to highlight something from Green’s statement in the Washington Post because it’s worse in context and I want to make sure everyone has that context:

          > Green, the YouTube star who did a paid post with ControlAI for his science channel, said in a statement that he wants to give his viewers a better understanding of this increasingly powerful technology by exposing them to a variety of views on AI. He pointed to recent unsponsored interviews on his personal YouTube channel that included critics of AI company hype, Sen. Sanders and one of the co-authors of “If Anyone Builds It, Everybody Dies.”

          ControlAI is a wealthy political entity in the effective altruist sphere, and Green took their money in order to present their AI doom marketing as both science and as legitimate criticism of AI. given that AI doom presupposes the impending creation of an AI god and is the preferred framing of the AI companies themselves, it is neither science nor critique.

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          #144

          @davidgerard Green stated that he did this in order to present a variety of views on AI, but that’s not true. all of the interviews and AI videos on Green’s channel are in support of ControlAI’s AI doom narrative. there are no opposing viewpoints challenging the ridiculous and unscientific idea that godlike AI is a possible and impending risk to humanity.

          all of the interviews Green has done have been with people who are either allied closely with ControlAI or are similarly tied up in Effective Altruism and AI doom (yes even Bernie, sorry about our boy).

          the article is coy about this, but the “If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies” co-author Green interviewed was Nate Soares, a core TESCREAL personality who came up with the term “AI alignment”, now used in AI doom marketing by every EA organization.

          the other co-author was Eliezer fucking Yudkowsky.

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          • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

            @davidgerard Green stated that he did this in order to present a variety of views on AI, but that’s not true. all of the interviews and AI videos on Green’s channel are in support of ControlAI’s AI doom narrative. there are no opposing viewpoints challenging the ridiculous and unscientific idea that godlike AI is a possible and impending risk to humanity.

            all of the interviews Green has done have been with people who are either allied closely with ControlAI or are similarly tied up in Effective Altruism and AI doom (yes even Bernie, sorry about our boy).

            the article is coy about this, but the “If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies” co-author Green interviewed was Nate Soares, a core TESCREAL personality who came up with the term “AI alignment”, now used in AI doom marketing by every EA organization.

            the other co-author was Eliezer fucking Yudkowsky.

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            @davidgerard for anyone unfamiliar with Yud: oh boy you don’t want it

            in short, Yudkowsky invented the modern, AI doom cultist, capital-R form of Rationalism. without Yud and Soares, the TESCREAL belief package wouldn’t have the shape or the political power that it does now. these are core figures. Yud did decades of work exposing billionaires to the Rationalist and Effective Altruist ideas that he and Soares came up with.

            the reason why the interview wasn’t with Yudkowsky is because his name is now poison, as a lot of people who listen to the guy quickly realize he’s a crank.

            Green’s paid video with ControlAI led quickly to an interview series where he platformed one of the biggest TESCREAL figures in the subculture.

            and note that when Green says the interviews were “unsponsored”, that’s a YouTube term of art. it doesn’t mean he didn’t receive compensation, it just means he personally decided the video didn’t need a “Sponsored Content” warning or ControlAI’s logo on it.

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            • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

              @davidgerard for anyone unfamiliar with Yud: oh boy you don’t want it

              in short, Yudkowsky invented the modern, AI doom cultist, capital-R form of Rationalism. without Yud and Soares, the TESCREAL belief package wouldn’t have the shape or the political power that it does now. these are core figures. Yud did decades of work exposing billionaires to the Rationalist and Effective Altruist ideas that he and Soares came up with.

              the reason why the interview wasn’t with Yudkowsky is because his name is now poison, as a lot of people who listen to the guy quickly realize he’s a crank.

              Green’s paid video with ControlAI led quickly to an interview series where he platformed one of the biggest TESCREAL figures in the subculture.

              and note that when Green says the interviews were “unsponsored”, that’s a YouTube term of art. it doesn’t mean he didn’t receive compensation, it just means he personally decided the video didn’t need a “Sponsored Content” warning or ControlAI’s logo on it.

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              @davidgerard whether Green’s videos are marked as unsponsored because ControlAI paid him in one large lump sum with the understanding he’d do the rest of the AI videos, or it was an explicit part of a partnership contract, or Green’s a true believer fool who took a smaller sum for the sponsored video and bought into the belief package entirely, is invisible and of no concern to me

              this is what corruption looks like when someone admits to it

              it’s time to pay attention and reclaim the media literacy your education denied you

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              • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                @davidgerard Green stated that he did this in order to present a variety of views on AI, but that’s not true. all of the interviews and AI videos on Green’s channel are in support of ControlAI’s AI doom narrative. there are no opposing viewpoints challenging the ridiculous and unscientific idea that godlike AI is a possible and impending risk to humanity.

                all of the interviews Green has done have been with people who are either allied closely with ControlAI or are similarly tied up in Effective Altruism and AI doom (yes even Bernie, sorry about our boy).

                the article is coy about this, but the “If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies” co-author Green interviewed was Nate Soares, a core TESCREAL personality who came up with the term “AI alignment”, now used in AI doom marketing by every EA organization.

                the other co-author was Eliezer fucking Yudkowsky.

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                @zzt
                Thank 👏 you!

                Seeing everyone blow up about his use of genAI while this problematic barely being addressed. I get that one of those are simpler to wrap your head around, but the other is so much more damning.

                Hank Green went from shrugging and going "Why do everyone hate AI?" to booster of AI doomerism.

                Carl from Internet of Bugs addressed it, but I haven't really seen many others do so.
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lKyNdZz3Vw

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                  @zzt
                  Thank 👏 you!

                  Seeing everyone blow up about his use of genAI while this problematic barely being addressed. I get that one of those are simpler to wrap your head around, but the other is so much more damning.

                  Hank Green went from shrugging and going "Why do everyone hate AI?" to booster of AI doomerism.

                  Carl from Internet of Bugs addressed it, but I haven't really seen many others do so.
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lKyNdZz3Vw

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                  #148

                  @707Kat Carl’s video is excellent! it was my all-in-one source on this before Pivot covered it. I should give that video a link in the top level of this thread

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                  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                    @707Kat Carl’s video is excellent! it was my all-in-one source on this before Pivot covered it. I should give that video a link in the top level of this thread

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                    #149

                    @zzt I was gobsmacked when HG released both a Sci-show video with the ControlAI behind it (I went and personally checked up their ties to EA) and then his personal channel with the Yudkowski book interview within 1-2 weeks.

                    Not to speak of him running another EA point critiquing the critique of water usage of genAI Datacenters in another video.

                    I find it so astounding that resource abuse and current harms apparently "isn't that bad" while future theoretical hype b/s is worth platforming.

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                    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                      hey so about your favorite boy hank green. it’s such a shame that he went overboard with the LLM stuff, that was impossible to see coming, good on him for realizing he was addicted right? well wishes for the good boy!

                      anyway there’s smoking gun evidence that he was paid by effective altruists to do marketing for the “AI is so dangerous but so revolutionary” flavor of critihype. this is alleged by hank green expert hank green in the washington post, as well as an EA in charge of influencer marketing. he was literally being paid by TESCREALs.

                      someone in the same community ran a program where TikTokers were required to post an AI critihype video a day in a cult-like environment where they were subjected to “voluntary” waterboarding and other forms of indoctrination. I’m not kidding, this literal thing happened.

                      here’s @davidgerard’s pivot to AI with the evidence linked: https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/08/06/the-ai-doomsday-cult-recruits-social-media-influencers/

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                      @davidgerard this extends beyond Green, by the way. for more details on how ControlAI and other EA groups pay science communicators to push AI doom marketing, Carl from Internet of Bugs is excellent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lKyNdZz3Vw

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                      • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                        @davidgerard whether Green’s videos are marked as unsponsored because ControlAI paid him in one large lump sum with the understanding he’d do the rest of the AI videos, or it was an explicit part of a partnership contract, or Green’s a true believer fool who took a smaller sum for the sponsored video and bought into the belief package entirely, is invisible and of no concern to me

                        this is what corruption looks like when someone admits to it

                        it’s time to pay attention and reclaim the media literacy your education denied you

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                        @zzt @davidgerard Haven't read it yet, but I sourced physical and digital copies. https://uk.sagepub.com/en-gb/eur/the-political-economy-of-communication/book231852

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