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Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

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  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

    Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

    ❌ No consent
    ❌ No opt-in
    ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

    This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

    ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

    😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

    n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
    n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
    n_dimension@infosec.exchange
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #6

    @Tutanota

    ...wow... That's super disingenious take.
    Pushing data is now the major contributor of climate collapse?

    A single backbone does about 24Tbits per second and the world is a spaghetti of these.
    A 4GB blob pushed to few tens of millions devices wouldn't even twitch the needle.

    The author is either naive or relies on the naivete of their readers.

    leberschnitzel@existiert.chL 1 Reply Last reply
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    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

      Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

      ❌ No consent
      ❌ No opt-in
      ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

      This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

      ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

      😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

      lumi@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
      lumi@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
      lumi@snug.moe
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #7

      @Tutanota could i ask to have a look at our request to ban generative "ai" in all tutanota projects?

      github.com/tutao/tutanota/discussions/10759

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      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

        Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

        ❌ No consent
        ❌ No opt-in
        ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

        This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

        ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

        😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

        dckim@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
        dckim@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
        dckim@mastodon.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #8

        @Tutanota I really like the Gemini AI model. I have been using it from the google website, and it seems like it is miles ahead of all others.

        This is likely because Google has the largest Data Set of all. The other companies on have a small fraction of the Dataset that Google has, and likewise only fractional access to additional data through scraping/polls

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        • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

          @Tutanota

          ...wow... That's super disingenious take.
          Pushing data is now the major contributor of climate collapse?

          A single backbone does about 24Tbits per second and the world is a spaghetti of these.
          A 4GB blob pushed to few tens of millions devices wouldn't even twitch the needle.

          The author is either naive or relies on the naivete of their readers.

          leberschnitzel@existiert.chL This user is from outside of this forum
          leberschnitzel@existiert.chL This user is from outside of this forum
          leberschnitzel@existiert.ch
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #9

          @n_dimension you mean like at 2/3rds through the article? @Tutanota

          n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN 1 Reply Last reply
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          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

            Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

            ❌ No consent
            ❌ No opt-in
            ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

            This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

            ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

            😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

            c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
            c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
            c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #10

            @Tutanota there’s something obscene about using the nano prefix on something so large.

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            • leberschnitzel@existiert.chL leberschnitzel@existiert.ch

              @n_dimension you mean like at 2/3rds through the article? @Tutanota

              n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
              n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
              n_dimension@infosec.exchange
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #11

              @leberschnitzel @Tutanota

              Didn't get past the clickbite title, but now I'll have a look...

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              • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                ❌ No consent
                ❌ No opt-in
                ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                mokhtarstork@zirk.usM This user is from outside of this forum
                mokhtarstork@zirk.usM This user is from outside of this forum
                mokhtarstork@zirk.us
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #12

                @Tutanota Time to change to Linux

                clintonanderson@universeodon.comC mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM tutanota@mastodon.socialT 3 Replies Last reply
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                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                  Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                  ❌ No consent
                  ❌ No opt-in
                  ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                  This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                  ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                  😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                  lbroggi@livellosegreto.itL This user is from outside of this forum
                  lbroggi@livellosegreto.itL This user is from outside of this forum
                  lbroggi@livellosegreto.it
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #13

                  @Tutanota For those who wonder about the CO2 cost, here is a direct quote

                  At Chrome's scale, the climate bill for one model push, paid in atmospheric CO2 by the entire planet, is between six thousand and sixty thousand tonnes of CO2-equivalent emissions, depending on how many devices receive the push. That is the environmental cost of one company unilaterally deciding that two billion peoples' default browser will mass-distribute a 4 GB binary they did not request.

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                  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                    Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                    ❌ No consent
                    ❌ No opt-in
                    ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                    This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                    ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                    😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                    kotaro@kotaro.meK This user is from outside of this forum
                    kotaro@kotaro.meK This user is from outside of this forum
                    kotaro@kotaro.me
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #14

                    @Tutanota It would still be forgivable if we could freely use that 4GB scaled-down version of Gemini in a harness other than Chrome, but that's not the case.

                    Worse than Apple
                    👎.

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                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                      Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                      ❌ No consent
                      ❌ No opt-in
                      ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                      This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                      ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                      😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                      jetmcquack@mastodon.unoJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      jetmcquack@mastodon.unoJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      jetmcquack@mastodon.uno
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #15

                      @Tutanota

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                      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                        Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                        ❌ No consent
                        ❌ No opt-in
                        ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                        This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                        ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                        😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                        miguelpergamon@kolektiva.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                        miguelpergamon@kolektiva.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                        miguelpergamon@kolektiva.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #16

                        @Tutanota

                        Oh, so was that what happened to my Lenovo tablet when it froze on Sunday and displayed the "cog" symbol at the top left with a 'UI is working' message? 🤔

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                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                          Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                          ❌ No consent
                          ❌ No opt-in
                          ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                          This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                          ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                          😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                          blindcoder@toot.berlinB This user is from outside of this forum
                          blindcoder@toot.berlinB This user is from outside of this forum
                          blindcoder@toot.berlin
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #17

                          @Tutanota It's not a "can" or "can not" situation. It's a "Google allows you to do that" situation.

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                          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                            Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                            ❌ No consent
                            ❌ No opt-in
                            ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                            This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                            ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                            😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                            lemgandi@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                            lemgandi@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                            lemgandi@mastodon.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #18

                            @Tutanota Don't be Evil

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                            • mokhtarstork@zirk.usM mokhtarstork@zirk.us

                              @Tutanota Time to change to Linux

                              clintonanderson@universeodon.comC This user is from outside of this forum
                              clintonanderson@universeodon.comC This user is from outside of this forum
                              clintonanderson@universeodon.com
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #19

                              @MokhtarStork @Tutanota

                              And maybe graphene OS on mobile.

                              https://grapheneos.org/

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                              • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                                ❌ No consent
                                ❌ No opt-in
                                ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                                This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                                ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                                😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                                feyter@mastodon.gamedev.placeF This user is from outside of this forum
                                feyter@mastodon.gamedev.placeF This user is from outside of this forum
                                feyter@mastodon.gamedev.place
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #20

                                @Tutanota but how is this model expected to run on my crappy hardware?

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                                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                  Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                                  ❌ No consent
                                  ❌ No opt-in
                                  ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                                  This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                                  ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                                  😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                                  locha@fediscience.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
                                  locha@fediscience.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
                                  locha@fediscience.org
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #21

                                  @Tutanota Scratching my head: say we assume the best intents, is it better or worse than sending those requests to external server? Silent bloat or spyware?

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                                  • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

                                    @Tutanota Damn. The RAM crisis forced Google to regular computers and laptops to get more RAM.

                                    On the serious note, it isn't that surprising.

                                    mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
                                    mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
                                    mast0d0nphan@beige.party
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #22

                                    @The_Universality @Tutanota They want to crash all local devices so they can sell us AI-slop cloud laptops that we don't control.

                                    Google's new motto: YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY! ALSO WE'RE TOTALLY EVIL!

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                                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                      Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                                      ❌ No consent
                                      ❌ No opt-in
                                      ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                                      This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                                      ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                                      😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                                      yaqubpk@mastodon.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
                                      yaqubpk@mastodon.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
                                      yaqubpk@mastodon.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #23

                                      @Tutanota install librewolf get rid chrome

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                                      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                        Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                                        ❌ No consent
                                        ❌ No opt-in
                                        ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                                        This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                                        ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                                        😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                                        fichusalon@mas.toF This user is from outside of this forum
                                        fichusalon@mas.toF This user is from outside of this forum
                                        fichusalon@mas.to
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #24

                                        @Tutanota next step, no more data center, but distributed LLM on our computers

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                                        • mokhtarstork@zirk.usM mokhtarstork@zirk.us

                                          @Tutanota Time to change to Linux

                                          mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          mast0d0nphan@beige.party
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #25

                                          @MokhtarStork @Tutanota As long as you still use Google Chrome on any OS, there's a chance of this happening again. I'd recommend using Cromite, Ungoogled Chromium or Helium instead. Hell, just drop the Chromium monopoly altogether and use LibreWolf, Mullvad Browser or Waterfox.

                                          On Android, I'd recommend Cromite, Ironfox, Fennec, or Iodé.

                                          mokhtarstork@zirk.usM 1 Reply Last reply
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