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Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

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  • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

    @Tutanota

    ...wow... That's super disingenious take.
    Pushing data is now the major contributor of climate collapse?

    A single backbone does about 24Tbits per second and the world is a spaghetti of these.
    A 4GB blob pushed to few tens of millions devices wouldn't even twitch the needle.

    The author is either naive or relies on the naivete of their readers.

    leberschnitzel@existiert.chL This user is from outside of this forum
    leberschnitzel@existiert.chL This user is from outside of this forum
    leberschnitzel@existiert.ch
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #9

    @n_dimension you mean like at 2/3rds through the article? @Tutanota

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    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

      Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

      ❌ No consent
      ❌ No opt-in
      ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

      This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

      ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

      😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

      c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
      c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #10

      @Tutanota there’s something obscene about using the nano prefix on something so large.

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      • leberschnitzel@existiert.chL leberschnitzel@existiert.ch

        @n_dimension you mean like at 2/3rds through the article? @Tutanota

        n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #11

        @leberschnitzel @Tutanota

        Didn't get past the clickbite title, but now I'll have a look...

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        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

          Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

          ❌ No consent
          ❌ No opt-in
          ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

          This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

          ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

          😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

          mokhtarstork@zirk.usM This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #12

          @Tutanota Time to change to Linux

          clintonanderson@universeodon.comC mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM tutanota@mastodon.socialT 3 Replies Last reply
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          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

            Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

            ❌ No consent
            ❌ No opt-in
            ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

            This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

            ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

            😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

            lbroggi@livellosegreto.itL This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #13

            @Tutanota For those who wonder about the CO2 cost, here is a direct quote

            At Chrome's scale, the climate bill for one model push, paid in atmospheric CO2 by the entire planet, is between six thousand and sixty thousand tonnes of CO2-equivalent emissions, depending on how many devices receive the push. That is the environmental cost of one company unilaterally deciding that two billion peoples' default browser will mass-distribute a 4 GB binary they did not request.

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            • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

              Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

              ❌ No consent
              ❌ No opt-in
              ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

              This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

              ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

              😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

              kotaro@kotaro.meK This user is from outside of this forum
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              #14

              @Tutanota It would still be forgivable if we could freely use that 4GB scaled-down version of Gemini in a harness other than Chrome, but that's not the case.

              Worse than Apple
              👎.

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              • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                ❌ No consent
                ❌ No opt-in
                ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                jetmcquack@mastodon.unoJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #15

                @Tutanota

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                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                  Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                  ❌ No consent
                  ❌ No opt-in
                  ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                  This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                  ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                  😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                  miguelpergamon@kolektiva.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  miguelpergamon@kolektiva.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #16

                  @Tutanota

                  Oh, so was that what happened to my Lenovo tablet when it froze on Sunday and displayed the "cog" symbol at the top left with a 'UI is working' message? 🤔

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                  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                    Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                    ❌ No consent
                    ❌ No opt-in
                    ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                    This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                    ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                    😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                    blindcoder@toot.berlinB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #17

                    @Tutanota It's not a "can" or "can not" situation. It's a "Google allows you to do that" situation.

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                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                      Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                      ❌ No consent
                      ❌ No opt-in
                      ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                      This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                      ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                      😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                      lemgandi@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
                      lemgandi@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #18

                      @Tutanota Don't be Evil

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                      • mokhtarstork@zirk.usM mokhtarstork@zirk.us

                        @Tutanota Time to change to Linux

                        clintonanderson@universeodon.comC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #19

                        @MokhtarStork @Tutanota

                        And maybe graphene OS on mobile.

                        https://grapheneos.org/

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                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                          Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                          ❌ No consent
                          ❌ No opt-in
                          ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                          This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                          ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                          😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                          feyter@mastodon.gamedev.placeF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #20

                          @Tutanota but how is this model expected to run on my crappy hardware?

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                          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                            Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                            ❌ No consent
                            ❌ No opt-in
                            ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                            This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                            ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                            😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                            locha@fediscience.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #21

                            @Tutanota Scratching my head: say we assume the best intents, is it better or worse than sending those requests to external server? Silent bloat or spyware?

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                            • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

                              @Tutanota Damn. The RAM crisis forced Google to regular computers and laptops to get more RAM.

                              On the serious note, it isn't that surprising.

                              mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #22

                              @The_Universality @Tutanota They want to crash all local devices so they can sell us AI-slop cloud laptops that we don't control.

                              Google's new motto: YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY! ALSO WE'RE TOTALLY EVIL!

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                              • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                                ❌ No consent
                                ❌ No opt-in
                                ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                                This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                                ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                                😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                                yaqubpk@mastodon.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #23

                                @Tutanota install librewolf get rid chrome

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                                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                  Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                                  ❌ No consent
                                  ❌ No opt-in
                                  ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                                  This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                                  ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                                  😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                                  fichusalon@mas.toF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #24

                                  @Tutanota next step, no more data center, but distributed LLM on our computers

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                                  • mokhtarstork@zirk.usM mokhtarstork@zirk.us

                                    @Tutanota Time to change to Linux

                                    mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #25

                                    @MokhtarStork @Tutanota As long as you still use Google Chrome on any OS, there's a chance of this happening again. I'd recommend using Cromite, Ungoogled Chromium or Helium instead. Hell, just drop the Chromium monopoly altogether and use LibreWolf, Mullvad Browser or Waterfox.

                                    On Android, I'd recommend Cromite, Ironfox, Fennec, or Iodé.

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                                    • clintonanderson@universeodon.comC clintonanderson@universeodon.com

                                      @MokhtarStork @Tutanota

                                      And maybe graphene OS on mobile.

                                      https://grapheneos.org/

                                      mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #26

                                      @ClintonAnderson @MokhtarStork @Tutanota https://beige.party/@mast0d0nphan/116522033827491424

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                                      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                        Google Chrome silently installs a 4 GB Gemini Nano AI model on your device

                                        ❌ No consent
                                        ❌ No opt-in
                                        ❌ No real opt-out for regular users

                                        This isn’t a small experiment & it’s on billions of devices.

                                        ➡️ Read more: https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

                                        😠 A tactic we've already seen with Gemini on Android. But at least you can disable it here, learn how: https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

                                        pa27@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #27

                                        @Tutanota On the bright side, none of my machines has the folder "OptGuideOnDeviceModel". So far so good! I'll keep a watch out for it.
                                        As for Claude desktop - why would anyone install that anyway?

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                                        • mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM mast0d0nphan@beige.party

                                          @ClintonAnderson @MokhtarStork @Tutanota https://beige.party/@mast0d0nphan/116522033827491424

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                                          #28

                                          @mast0d0nphan @MokhtarStork @Tutanota

                                          It is important to be vigilant, no matter what one is using.

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