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  3. AI Doomerism has been in the news lately, especially with the loud, viral resignation of Jacob Coxon from Anthropic.

AI Doomerism has been in the news lately, especially with the loud, viral resignation of Jacob Coxon from Anthropic.

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  • cesarpose_@fosstodon.orgC cesarpose_@fosstodon.org

    @emilymbender
    If humanity were exterminated by something it created itself, It will be a well-deserved ending.

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    @cesarpose_ @emilymbender

    I’ve always said aliens don’t need to invade this planet to conquer it — humans will kill ourselves and they’ll be able to get it for free, along with a hell of a show to watch from orbit.

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    • rickf@indieweb.socialR rickf@indieweb.social

      @cesarpose_ @emilymbender

      I’ve always said aliens don’t need to invade this planet to conquer it — humans will kill ourselves and they’ll be able to get it for free, along with a hell of a show to watch from orbit.

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      @rickf @emilymbender
      It is very likely that the main cause of our extinction will be stupidity.

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      • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

        The Boosters say: AI is a thing, it's inevitable, it's imminent and it's going to solve all of our problems.

        The Doomers say: AI is a thing, it's inevitable, it's imminent and it's going to kill us all.

        These are obviously the same story, with just different twists at the end. And both are nonsense. There is "moderate" position between them, but there is space outside of that fantasy world where we can see the actual harms happening in the name of "AI".
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        #46

        @emilymbender

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        • cesarpose_@fosstodon.orgC cesarpose_@fosstodon.org

          @rickf @emilymbender
          It is very likely that the main cause of our extinction will be stupidity.

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          @cesarpose_ @emilymbender

          Yup. Which includes greed, ego, and lusts for power.

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          • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

            AI Doomerism has been in the news lately, especially with the loud, viral resignation of Jacob Coxon from Anthropic.

            Maybe I've missed it, but I haven't seen any statements from CEOs and other execs who are more on the AI Booster side of the ledger.

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            @emilymbender When the count of criminal levels of AI rogue behaviour reaches 4 as it has done now, there is surely a mandate for a CEO statement.

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            • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

              AI Doomerism has been in the news lately, especially with the loud, viral resignation of Jacob Coxon from Anthropic.

              Maybe I've missed it, but I haven't seen any statements from CEOs and other execs who are more on the AI Booster side of the ledger.

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              @emilymbender so you didn't notice the MO. But fear is how the pyramid scheme keeps afloat. "AI is dangerous so we need to be first." I bet that the resignation was scripted by the ceo as it is on par with the message of fear.

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              • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                The Boosters say: AI is a thing, it's inevitable, it's imminent and it's going to solve all of our problems.

                The Doomers say: AI is a thing, it's inevitable, it's imminent and it's going to kill us all.

                These are obviously the same story, with just different twists at the end. And both are nonsense. There is "moderate" position between them, but there is space outside of that fantasy world where we can see the actual harms happening in the name of "AI".
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                #50

                @emilymbender @jepyang if AI kills us all, it's probably because a human told it to... which does seem pretty likely tbh, given that theyre already using automated weapons to kill people, and some/many of them just seem to have a general disdain for humanity

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                • jordan@mastodon.subj.amJ jordan@mastodon.subj.am

                  @emilymbender All the while, human culture erodes and oceans boil.

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                  @jordan @emilymbender This is the *real* reason AI will kill us all that this thread doesn’t address in the least.

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                  • dotsie@mastodon.socialD dotsie@mastodon.social

                    @James @emilymbender with a lens that AI is useful and going to stay relevant for some time despite the myriad harms, to me this becomes obvious: they are trying for regulatory capture through fear mongering.

                    Nobody gets to own sovereign AI or have their own ‘intelligence’ they can run and use at their leisure how they see fit; it’s simply too dangerous.

                    Therefore, you must rent it from us, at recurring cost, indefinitely, because we are the only ones who can ensure it is used ‘responsibly’.

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                    @dotsie @emilymbender

                    That the AI pro/con discussion ends up in the same place as it is being currently framed suggests people should look for different solutions, quickly.

                    Why don’t we start with civil and criminal liability for AI firms.

                    Does a homeowner have responsibility if a loaded gun is left unsecured?

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                      @abartlet @dotsie @emilymbender

                      ….also a marketing decesion to sell risk to consumers.

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