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  • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

    security advice, 1996: writing your passwords down in a notebook is a very bad idea and nobody should do it

    security advice, 2026: writing your passwords down in a notebook is one of the most secure storage methods for most users

    (fun how threat models change over time, eh?)

    kimota94@mas.toK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    @gsuberland Writing them down and making each one unique and at least 10 characters long is very secure as long as you don’t misplace the list.

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    • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

      security advice, 1996: writing your passwords down in a notebook is a very bad idea and nobody should do it

      security advice, 2026: writing your passwords down in a notebook is one of the most secure storage methods for most users

      (fun how threat models change over time, eh?)

      phloggen@expressional.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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      #5

      @gsuberland

      Writing your passwords down in a physical paper notebook, also give your family a chance to access the family pictures and documents on your computers, when you are no longer able to yourself.

      Everybody should make a digital "Testament" listing passwords, and who out in the world should be told about the sad news., because they will not see the death-notice in your local paper.

      gerg@hachyderm.ioG victimofsimony@infosec.exchangeV phlash@mastodon.me.ukP 3 Replies Last reply
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      • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

        security advice, 1996: writing your passwords down in a notebook is a very bad idea and nobody should do it

        security advice, 2026: writing your passwords down in a notebook is one of the most secure storage methods for most users

        (fun how threat models change over time, eh?)

        loganer@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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        #6

        @gsuberland just get a list of strings tattooed on to various points of your body and then you just have to remember which body part correlates to which online service.

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        • phloggen@expressional.socialP phloggen@expressional.social

          @gsuberland

          Writing your passwords down in a physical paper notebook, also give your family a chance to access the family pictures and documents on your computers, when you are no longer able to yourself.

          Everybody should make a digital "Testament" listing passwords, and who out in the world should be told about the sad news., because they will not see the death-notice in your local paper.

          gerg@hachyderm.ioG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @phloggen @gsuberland I've taken the digital testament a step further. My self hosted service will execute shell and send emails if I miss two weeks acknowledgements (sends keepassxc file and password to family among other actions)

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          • phloggen@expressional.socialP phloggen@expressional.social

            @gsuberland

            Writing your passwords down in a physical paper notebook, also give your family a chance to access the family pictures and documents on your computers, when you are no longer able to yourself.

            Everybody should make a digital "Testament" listing passwords, and who out in the world should be told about the sad news., because they will not see the death-notice in your local paper.

            victimofsimony@infosec.exchangeV This user is from outside of this forum
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            #8

            @phloggen
            @gsuberland

            If you need a handful reach out privately.

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            • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

              security advice, 1996: writing your passwords down in a notebook is a very bad idea and nobody should do it

              security advice, 2026: writing your passwords down in a notebook is one of the most secure storage methods for most users

              (fun how threat models change over time, eh?)

              sholemalejchem@hessen.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #9

              @gsuberland THANK YOU! I was not sure if I remembered it correctly since I hst been 30 years but to this day I refuse writing down passwords...

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              • idiot@mastodonapp.ukI idiot@mastodonapp.uk

                @gsuberland did you mean "writing your passwords down in notepad.exe"?

                That's completely secure.
                There will never be a CVE in notepad.exe.

                loganer@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                #10

                @idiot @gsuberland I hate to disturb this train of thought but apparently notepad is getting copilot.

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                • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                  security advice, 1996: writing your passwords down in a notebook is a very bad idea and nobody should do it

                  security advice, 2026: writing your passwords down in a notebook is one of the most secure storage methods for most users

                  (fun how threat models change over time, eh?)

                  catdragon@mastodon.worldC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #11

                  @gsuberland I have a book of all that pesky personal stuff should I become unalive without notice.

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                  • phloggen@expressional.socialP phloggen@expressional.social

                    @gsuberland

                    Writing your passwords down in a physical paper notebook, also give your family a chance to access the family pictures and documents on your computers, when you are no longer able to yourself.

                    Everybody should make a digital "Testament" listing passwords, and who out in the world should be told about the sad news., because they will not see the death-notice in your local paper.

                    phlash@mastodon.me.ukP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #12

                    @phloggen @gsuberland

                    https://github.com/danieldurrans/Digital-Estate-Emergency-Kit

                    is doing the job for me 😁

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                    • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                      security advice, 1996: writing your passwords down in a notebook is a very bad idea and nobody should do it

                      security advice, 2026: writing your passwords down in a notebook is one of the most secure storage methods for most users

                      (fun how threat models change over time, eh?)

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                      #13

                      @gsuberland
                      Back then they also thought that changing your password every time you start remembering it was a good idea.

                      Not writing passwords down and not remembering them leads to the most terrible passwords ever.

                      And just to be sure people used shittu passeords, there were recommendations to take a word and swap a few letters with numbers, e.g. "Pa55w0rd".

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                      • gerg@hachyderm.ioG gerg@hachyderm.io

                        @phloggen @gsuberland I've taken the digital testament a step further. My self hosted service will execute shell and send emails if I miss two weeks acknowledgements (sends keepassxc file and password to family among other actions)

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                        #14

                        @gerg @gsuberland

                        I would never trust a computer with something as emotionally important as this.

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                        • phloggen@expressional.socialP phloggen@expressional.social

                          @gerg @gsuberland

                          I would never trust a computer with something as emotionally important as this.

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                          #15

                          @phloggen @gsuberland fair. A computer has about the same emotional intelligence as me, though, so...

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                          • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                            security advice, 1996: writing your passwords down in a notebook is a very bad idea and nobody should do it

                            security advice, 2026: writing your passwords down in a notebook is one of the most secure storage methods for most users

                            (fun how threat models change over time, eh?)

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                            #16

                            @gsuberland Also used to be 8 characters, and shouldn't be
                            a word. (I think this was some truncation thing.)

                            Now, the recommendation is split among those wanting to use a few words in a row because it's technically harder to brute force, and those who want your small password to have special characters (but not provide emoji support)

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                            • loganer@mastodon.socialL loganer@mastodon.social

                              @idiot @gsuberland I hate to disturb this train of thought but apparently notepad is getting copilot.

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                              #17

                              @gsuberland @loganer @idiot notepad didn’t need copilot to have a CVE.
                              MS managed to make a mess of markdown.

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                              • kimota94@mas.toK kimota94@mas.to

                                @gsuberland Writing them down and making each one unique and at least 10 characters long is very secure as long as you don’t misplace the list.

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                                #18

                                @gsuberland @Kimota94 losing the list where it will never be found by you or anyone else only makes it even more secure.

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                                • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                                  security advice, 1996: writing your passwords down in a notebook is a very bad idea and nobody should do it

                                  security advice, 2026: writing your passwords down in a notebook is one of the most secure storage methods for most users

                                  (fun how threat models change over time, eh?)

                                  donhawkins@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #19

                                  @gsuberland @briankrebs Using a clay tablet & a chisel too. 😎

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