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  3. I keep seeing the "cars replaced horses" thing related to "AI."

I keep seeing the "cars replaced horses" thing related to "AI."

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  • heidentweet@todon.euH heidentweet@todon.eu

    @hackbyte
    Nah, this is about Europe too. In the Netherlands it took decades of protests and actions like road blocks to change just a tiny bit of the car-centricity of this country. While still better than most countries, the Netherlands still has cars almost everywhere. And they're also getting bigger and deadlier.

    Re AI: my city Amsterdam gets a hypercenter and a "regular" data center in the South-East while we also suffer a water shortage at the moment. This under a "left"-leaning city council.

    @Hex

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    @Heidentweet @hackbyte FFS, I didn't know about the datacenter.

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    • hex@kolektiva.socialH hex@kolektiva.social

      @Heidentweet @hackbyte FFS, I didn't know about the datacenter.

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      @Hex
      The hyper one, 85 mt high: https://extinctionrebellion.nl/extinction-rebellion-verzwakt-betonnen-fundering-datacenter-in-aanbouw-met-waterballonnen-met-chemische-vloeistof/ Technically illegal as it only got an environmental permit in effing 2025. Wonder who was responsible for that. Undoubtedly XR is going to be labelled terrorists soon.

      And the one on Amstel-III, "only' 60 mt and just the first part, in a housing area too:
      https://www.at5.nl/artikelen/239023/vergunning-verleend-voor-nieuw-datacenter-in-zuidoost

      The Council did the same with the hotel room stops: only after year whatever and with multiple exemptions.
      I so loath these people.

      @hackbyte

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      • hex@kolektiva.socialH hex@kolektiva.social

        Some old white dude decided to jump all over yelling "Ackchyually, no one forced you to buy a car!!", and I'm just blocking. This shit is so easy to research. Like, yeah, people were forced to buy a car by minimum parking zoning that spread out cities, mass transit being (very intentionally) destroyed, and giant cars that murder people. There are actual laws that very intentionally made things worse, and then there's the intentionally created prisoner's dilemma of ever expanding car sizes.

        This shit is extremely easy to research. At this point I'm just assuming it's trolls or the type of people who would be like "but no one has *proved* smoking causes cancer" back in the 90's. Yeah, that was a thing, and they sounded *just fucking like these people today.*

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        @Hex I'll also say: there's also a shit ton of people who reject the idea that complex decision making systems like you describe exist or should exist. They literally don't see what you describe as "force".

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        • hex@kolektiva.socialH hex@kolektiva.social

          Some old white dude decided to jump all over yelling "Ackchyually, no one forced you to buy a car!!", and I'm just blocking. This shit is so easy to research. Like, yeah, people were forced to buy a car by minimum parking zoning that spread out cities, mass transit being (very intentionally) destroyed, and giant cars that murder people. There are actual laws that very intentionally made things worse, and then there's the intentionally created prisoner's dilemma of ever expanding car sizes.

          This shit is extremely easy to research. At this point I'm just assuming it's trolls or the type of people who would be like "but no one has *proved* smoking causes cancer" back in the 90's. Yeah, that was a thing, and they sounded *just fucking like these people today.*

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          @Hex lmao. spongebob pile meme for reasons why people are forced to buy cars

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