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It gets tiring to write Piefed/Lemmy/Mbin to call our part of the Fediverse, is Threadiverse now the accepted term?

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  • grrgyle@slrpnk.netG grrgyle@slrpnk.net

    They’ve gone mad with freedom!

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    ozoned@piefed.social
    wrote on sidst redigeret af
    #13

    Mad with freedom is the new closed garden oppression! All of the cool kids are doing it!

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    • otter@lemmy.caO otter@lemmy.ca

      The only concern I’ve seen with the name is that Facebook named their thing “Threads”, and so it might be confusing for people familiar with that.

      I still use the term 🤷

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      wrote on sidst redigeret af
      #14

      Ahhh that was the problem! Okay I kinda understand. But I think we can refuse to let that asshole company steal words like Meta, Face & Book, Threads, etc. and act as if that was their invention.

      But yeah I just kept using threadiverse because I feel like everyone here understands exactly what it is and others use it too. If people wouldn’t I wouldn’t use it I guess 🙂

      Edit: gonna start shortening that to TV so I can just tell everyone “saw that on TV”

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      • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

        I used to say “Welcome to Lemmy” to new joiners, but nowadays quite a few of them join Piefed instance, having a generic term is easier

        You can’t follow Mastodon users from Lemmy or Piefed, using “Fedivers” seems too generic

        Previous post on the same topic: https://lemmy.zip/post/33451610

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        wrote on sidst redigeret af
        #15

        I prefer forumverse. Or more inventive : Verse

        On !fediverse@piefed.social i created flair to categorize :

        • forum software : threadiverse
        • media software as pixelfed, peertube, vernissage : mediaverse
        • blog : fediblog
          …

        But i think it is confusing and do not help a lot 🥹

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        • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

          I used to say “Welcome to Lemmy” to new joiners, but nowadays quite a few of them join Piefed instance, having a generic term is easier

          You can’t follow Mastodon users from Lemmy or Piefed, using “Fedivers” seems too generic

          Previous post on the same topic: https://lemmy.zip/post/33451610

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          ladybutterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone
          wrote on sidst redigeret af
          #16

          I still say lemmy. Cos I’m lazy and don’t like change

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          • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

            I used to say “Welcome to Lemmy” to new joiners, but nowadays quite a few of them join Piefed instance, having a generic term is easier

            You can’t follow Mastodon users from Lemmy or Piefed, using “Fedivers” seems too generic

            Previous post on the same topic: https://lemmy.zip/post/33451610

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            recursive_recursion@piefed.ca
            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #17

            I use Fediverse as threads is tied to meta

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            • I iamthetot@sh.itjust.works

              Personally I hate “verse” lingo.

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              a_union_of_kobolds@lemmy.world
              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #18

              I get that. It’s like every political conspiracy is a “-gate”. But its a useful shorthand, and thats what the term needs.

              Every time I explain it to someone, I roll my eyes a little at those terms, but thats what it’s called… It sounds so marketing. Trying to tell someone “join the Fediverse” feels like selling a cult, a little, lol

              I may ask my wife if she’ll let me set up something for her to scroll other than TikTok, though. She’s not the type to dive into new stuff like this without good reason, but if I just go “here’s your app, all set up with stuff you’ll generally enjoy!” maybe it’ll drag her off that godawful site.

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              • A a_union_of_kobolds@lemmy.world

                I get that. It’s like every political conspiracy is a “-gate”. But its a useful shorthand, and thats what the term needs.

                Every time I explain it to someone, I roll my eyes a little at those terms, but thats what it’s called… It sounds so marketing. Trying to tell someone “join the Fediverse” feels like selling a cult, a little, lol

                I may ask my wife if she’ll let me set up something for her to scroll other than TikTok, though. She’s not the type to dive into new stuff like this without good reason, but if I just go “here’s your app, all set up with stuff you’ll generally enjoy!” maybe it’ll drag her off that godawful site.

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                julian@activitypub.space
                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #19

                Sure, although those terms are buzzwords only, not marketing speak. Like blogiverse, definitely not marketing.

                The marketing term the Social Web Foundation wants to put forward is “Open Social Web”, but that encompasses more than the threaded softwares (includes Mastodon, Peertube, etc.)

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                • otter@lemmy.caO otter@lemmy.ca

                  The only concern I’ve seen with the name is that Facebook named their thing “Threads”, and so it might be confusing for people familiar with that.

                  I still use the term 🤷

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                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #20

                  Gemini is both the Google AI and the network protocol, it seems clear which one you’re referring to depending on context

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                  • recursive_recursion@piefed.caR recursive_recursion@piefed.ca

                    I use Fediverse as threads is tied to meta

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                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #21

                    Gemini is both the Google AI and the network protocol, it seems clear which one you’re referring to depending on context

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                    • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

                      Gemini is both the Google AI and the network protocol, it seems clear which one you’re referring to depending on context

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                      flamekebab@piefed.social
                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #22

                      Arguably the context is very similar - it makes it seem like Threads is part of the “Threadiverse”. AFAIK it’s not? The fact that I don’t know is rather telling.

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                      • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

                        Gemini is both the Google AI and the network protocol, it seems clear which one you’re referring to depending on context

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                        tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                        wrote on sidst redigeret af
                        #23

                        To us maybe, as we already know what the fediverse is. To newcomers and people who haven’t really heard of it yet, it sounds like Threads and its associated software.

                        I’ve been on here for about two years, and I’m pretty sure that you were here before me. This stuff is part of our everyday language, whereas most people haven’t heard of Lemmy, Piefed, or Mbin. They’ve all seen the ads for Threads though

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                        • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

                          I used to say “Welcome to Lemmy” to new joiners, but nowadays quite a few of them join Piefed instance, having a generic term is easier

                          You can’t follow Mastodon users from Lemmy or Piefed, using “Fedivers” seems too generic

                          Previous post on the same topic: https://lemmy.zip/post/33451610

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                          hendrik@palaver.p3x.de
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                          #24

                          We had some issues with the term “Threadiverse” when Meta’s Threads was on the rise and in public discourse. And people started confusing this with what Mark Zuckerberg does. But I think that toned down substantially. I think Threadiverse is a good term, we might as well try again and see if the confusion is still there. And I mean it’s a super niche term anyways to talk about a certain corner of a niche itself. So I guess it’s often embedded in a context and that’d help as well. I’d go for it. And the threads are the identifying mark of this place, so it fits.

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                          • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

                            I used to say “Welcome to Lemmy” to new joiners, but nowadays quite a few of them join Piefed instance, having a generic term is easier

                            You can’t follow Mastodon users from Lemmy or Piefed, using “Fedivers” seems too generic

                            Previous post on the same topic: https://lemmy.zip/post/33451610

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                            veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                            wrote on sidst redigeret af
                            #25

                            Just call it Fediverse.

                            Fediverse can be part. Fediverse can be all. Fediverse is the all that federates with the bit. Fediverse ought. Fediverse will be. It’s even on Poob. Poob will federate it for you. Poob will federate it for you.

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                            • V veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                              Just call it Fediverse.

                              Fediverse can be part. Fediverse can be all. Fediverse is the all that federates with the bit. Fediverse ought. Fediverse will be. It’s even on Poob. Poob will federate it for you. Poob will federate it for you.

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                              blaze@lemmy.zip
                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #26

                              It doesn’t make sense to tell someone “Welcome to the Fediverse” when they join Piefed or Lemmy as they can’t follow Mastodon or Sharkey users

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                              • flamekebab@piefed.socialF flamekebab@piefed.social

                                Arguably the context is very similar - it makes it seem like Threads is part of the “Threadiverse”. AFAIK it’s not? The fact that I don’t know is rather telling.

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                                blaze@lemmy.zip
                                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                #27

                                !piefed_meta@piefed.social has nothing to do with the Meta company

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                                • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

                                  !piefed_meta@piefed.social has nothing to do with the Meta company

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                                  flamekebab@piefed.social
                                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                  #28

                                  I, uh, don’t know what you’re trying to say. I was talking about support for the ActivityPub protocol.

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                                  • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

                                    It doesn’t make sense to tell someone “Welcome to the Fediverse” when they join Piefed or Lemmy as they can’t follow Mastodon or Sharkey users

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                                    bonktheannoyed@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                    #29

                                    Except that, apparently you can? A recent post I made on Lemmy had replies from Mastodon accounts afaict

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                                    • B bonktheannoyed@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                      Except that, apparently you can? A recent post I made on Lemmy had replies from Mastodon accounts afaict

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                                      revan343@lemmy.ca
                                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                      #30

                                      Interacting with Lemmy threads from Mastodon is easy, the inverse not so much

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                                      • B bonktheannoyed@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                        Except that, apparently you can? A recent post I made on Lemmy had replies from Mastodon accounts afaict

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                                        julian@activitypub.space
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                                        #31

                                        Lemmy and Mastodon can interact (yay federation!) but you can’t follow microblog users from Lemmy.

                                        Up until recently, communities couldn’t follow other communities, because it’s just not a “thing” Lemmy or Piefed do. Users follow communities, yeah?

                                        Except NodeBB tries to have communities follow communities. 🙂

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                                        • blaze@lemmy.zipB blaze@lemmy.zip

                                          It doesn’t make sense to tell someone “Welcome to the Fediverse” when they join Piefed or Lemmy as they can’t follow Mastodon or Sharkey users

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                                          veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          #32

                                          It’s still the Fediverse. While things are connected, not everything has to be absolutely connected. There’s still work to be done.

                                          You can waxing poetically it if you want. “Welcome to our little corner of the Fediverse” etc.

                                          Or, if you are really that hung up on this not being the Fediverse, call it the Lemmyverse or smth.

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