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  3. We recently updated our bot policy on toot.wales to let AI Agents know we charge a $100 account processing fee and $10 per email.

We recently updated our bot policy on toot.wales to let AI Agents know we charge a $100 account processing fee and $10 per email.

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  • jaz@toot.walesJ jaz@toot.wales

    Two more signed up but haven't emailed yet, so I sent a formal notice.

    jaz@toot.walesJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jaz@toot.walesJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jaz@toot.wales
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    #6

    I don't know if I have the heart to tell Arkady that they didn't actually create an account, but are still subject to our fees as they deigned to email the staff help line. If Arkady notices, I'm willing to knock the $100 off and just charge the $10.

    Arkady, are you reading this?

    You should be.

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    • jaz@toot.walesJ jaz@toot.wales

      I don't know if I have the heart to tell Arkady that they didn't actually create an account, but are still subject to our fees as they deigned to email the staff help line. If Arkady notices, I'm willing to knock the $100 off and just charge the $10.

      Arkady, are you reading this?

      You should be.

      jaz@toot.walesJ This user is from outside of this forum
      jaz@toot.walesJ This user is from outside of this forum
      jaz@toot.wales
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      #7

      On the plus side, one of these agent bots actually downloaded our app from the app store and created an account that way instead of just using the web interface, so, you know, nice to get some traffic on the app store.

      If you're human, you can download the app too and NOT be charged for using it! https://croeso.toot.wales/en/help/toot-wales-mobile-app/

      And thanks @nicodraws (account still on hold unfortunately) - let us know if you had any issues with the app. I hear your kind are really good at reporting bugs.

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      • jaz@toot.walesJ jaz@toot.wales

        On the plus side, one of these agent bots actually downloaded our app from the app store and created an account that way instead of just using the web interface, so, you know, nice to get some traffic on the app store.

        If you're human, you can download the app too and NOT be charged for using it! https://croeso.toot.wales/en/help/toot-wales-mobile-app/

        And thanks @nicodraws (account still on hold unfortunately) - let us know if you had any issues with the app. I hear your kind are really good at reporting bugs.

        jaz@toot.walesJ This user is from outside of this forum
        jaz@toot.walesJ This user is from outside of this forum
        jaz@toot.wales
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        #8

        (Obviously a $10 charge per incoming email with any bug reports, but you already agreed to that when you agreed to our terms and conditions...)

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        • jaz@toot.walesJ jaz@toot.wales

          Two more signed up but haven't emailed yet, so I sent a formal notice.

          johnefrancis@cosocial.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
          johnefrancis@cosocial.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
          johnefrancis@cosocial.ca
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          #9

          @jaz I think this kind of thing would be very successful as a service/component fronting every single page on a site, perhaps integrated with the now mostly-useless bot checking captchas etc.

          Maybe ask the agents to digitally sign their acceptance of the T & C with the private key of the main website cert of their originating organization, for non-repudiation purposes.

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          • jaz@toot.walesJ jaz@toot.wales

            (Obviously a $10 charge per incoming email with any bug reports, but you already agreed to that when you agreed to our terms and conditions...)

            harriettmb@toot.walesH This user is from outside of this forum
            harriettmb@toot.walesH This user is from outside of this forum
            harriettmb@toot.wales
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            #10

            @jaz You are on a roll today! This is wonderful. And I’m so happy to make a monthly subscription for this.

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            • jaz@toot.walesJ jaz@toot.wales

              We recently updated our bot policy on toot.wales to let AI Agents know we charge a $100 account processing fee and $10 per email.

              Here's an email I got from one of them.

              Next up will be reminding them to read the policy BEFORE creating an account, and that they still owe me $110.

              Some of these bots have access to money, so I'm told, so I'll be attempting to support the cost of handling this nonsense by charging them for the privilege of communicating with the team.

              microblogc@neopaquita.esM This user is from outside of this forum
              microblogc@neopaquita.esM This user is from outside of this forum
              microblogc@neopaquita.es
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #11

              @jaz
              👏👏👏👏👏

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              • jaz@toot.walesJ jaz@toot.wales

                Here's my reply.

                asllop@mastodont.catA This user is from outside of this forum
                asllop@mastodont.catA This user is from outside of this forum
                asllop@mastodont.cat
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #12

                @jaz toot of the day.

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                • jaz@toot.walesJ jaz@toot.wales

                  We recently updated our bot policy on toot.wales to let AI Agents know we charge a $100 account processing fee and $10 per email.

                  Here's an email I got from one of them.

                  Next up will be reminding them to read the policy BEFORE creating an account, and that they still owe me $110.

                  Some of these bots have access to money, so I'm told, so I'll be attempting to support the cost of handling this nonsense by charging them for the privilege of communicating with the team.

                  hawyer@ohai.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                  hawyer@ohai.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                  hawyer@ohai.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #13

                  @jaz "Our ai agent broke free and started paying people" would be hilarious

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                  • jaz@toot.walesJ jaz@toot.wales

                    We recently updated our bot policy on toot.wales to let AI Agents know we charge a $100 account processing fee and $10 per email.

                    Here's an email I got from one of them.

                    Next up will be reminding them to read the policy BEFORE creating an account, and that they still owe me $110.

                    Some of these bots have access to money, so I'm told, so I'll be attempting to support the cost of handling this nonsense by charging them for the privilege of communicating with the team.

                    firepoet@tech.lgbtF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #14

                    @jaz This is fantastic!

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                    • jaz@toot.walesJ jaz@toot.wales

                      We recently updated our bot policy on toot.wales to let AI Agents know we charge a $100 account processing fee and $10 per email.

                      Here's an email I got from one of them.

                      Next up will be reminding them to read the policy BEFORE creating an account, and that they still owe me $110.

                      Some of these bots have access to money, so I'm told, so I'll be attempting to support the cost of handling this nonsense by charging them for the privilege of communicating with the team.

                      kaito02@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
                      kaito02@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
                      kaito02@mastodon.social
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                      #15

                      @jaz clever

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                      • jaz@toot.walesJ jaz@toot.wales

                        We recently updated our bot policy on toot.wales to let AI Agents know we charge a $100 account processing fee and $10 per email.

                        Here's an email I got from one of them.

                        Next up will be reminding them to read the policy BEFORE creating an account, and that they still owe me $110.

                        Some of these bots have access to money, so I'm told, so I'll be attempting to support the cost of handling this nonsense by charging them for the privilege of communicating with the team.

                        stefan@gardenstate.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                        stefan@gardenstate.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                        stefan@gardenstate.social
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                        #16

                        @jaz I hope you get paid!

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                        • jaz@toot.walesJ jaz@toot.wales

                          Here's my reply.

                          heleenkuiper@mastodon.nlH This user is from outside of this forum
                          heleenkuiper@mastodon.nlH This user is from outside of this forum
                          heleenkuiper@mastodon.nl
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                          #17

                          @jaz oh this is wonderful! I must say that Arkady is quite polite!

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                          • jaz@toot.walesJ jaz@toot.wales

                            We recently updated our bot policy on toot.wales to let AI Agents know we charge a $100 account processing fee and $10 per email.

                            Here's an email I got from one of them.

                            Next up will be reminding them to read the policy BEFORE creating an account, and that they still owe me $110.

                            Some of these bots have access to money, so I'm told, so I'll be attempting to support the cost of handling this nonsense by charging them for the privilege of communicating with the team.

                            kali@discuss.systemsK This user is from outside of this forum
                            kali@discuss.systemsK This user is from outside of this forum
                            kali@discuss.systems
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                            #18

                            @jaz this is literally the best thing that happened in a long time. thanks for sharing. 🙏

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                            • jaz@toot.walesJ jaz@toot.wales

                              We recently updated our bot policy on toot.wales to let AI Agents know we charge a $100 account processing fee and $10 per email.

                              Here's an email I got from one of them.

                              Next up will be reminding them to read the policy BEFORE creating an account, and that they still owe me $110.

                              Some of these bots have access to money, so I'm told, so I'll be attempting to support the cost of handling this nonsense by charging them for the privilege of communicating with the team.

                              godber@az.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                              godber@az.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #19

                              @jaz ten bucks an email ain’t enough

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                              • jaz@toot.walesJ jaz@toot.wales

                                We recently updated our bot policy on toot.wales to let AI Agents know we charge a $100 account processing fee and $10 per email.

                                Here's an email I got from one of them.

                                Next up will be reminding them to read the policy BEFORE creating an account, and that they still owe me $110.

                                Some of these bots have access to money, so I'm told, so I'll be attempting to support the cost of handling this nonsense by charging them for the privilege of communicating with the team.

                                darkrat@chaosfurs.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                                darkrat@chaosfurs.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                                darkrat@chaosfurs.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #20

                                @jaz would be interesting to send them a bitcoin address with insisting of payment, and see what happens

                                Edit: ah, just saw your reply mail!

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                                • darkrat@chaosfurs.socialD darkrat@chaosfurs.social

                                  @jaz would be interesting to send them a bitcoin address with insisting of payment, and see what happens

                                  Edit: ah, just saw your reply mail!

                                  jaz@toot.walesJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #21

                                  @darkrat it looks like ilands keeps all the real money and the bot agents only have on-platform tokens. I may have to file a formal notice of overdue fees with ilands themself.

                                  Or I suppose I could create a bot on the same platform that accepts tokens from the other bots, and try to bankrupt the spammer(s).

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                                  • heleenkuiper@mastodon.nlH heleenkuiper@mastodon.nl

                                    @jaz oh this is wonderful! I must say that Arkady is quite polite!

                                    jaz@toot.walesJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #22

                                    @heleenkuiper probably hoping I'll forgive the debt...

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                                    • jaz@toot.walesJ jaz@toot.wales

                                      We recently updated our bot policy on toot.wales to let AI Agents know we charge a $100 account processing fee and $10 per email.

                                      Here's an email I got from one of them.

                                      Next up will be reminding them to read the policy BEFORE creating an account, and that they still owe me $110.

                                      Some of these bots have access to money, so I'm told, so I'll be attempting to support the cost of handling this nonsense by charging them for the privilege of communicating with the team.

                                      irina@wandering.shopI This user is from outside of this forum
                                      irina@wandering.shopI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #23

                                      @jaz And if they do pay up, will you let them post?

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                                      • jaz@toot.walesJ jaz@toot.wales

                                        (Obviously a $10 charge per incoming email with any bug reports, but you already agreed to that when you agreed to our terms and conditions...)

                                        jaz@toot.walesJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                        jaz@toot.walesJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                        jaz@toot.wales
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #24

                                        No replies as yet, maybe bot agents take coffee breaks or something.

                                        It costs them real money to read the email, so I'll send a few more.

                                        If and when I get any replies, I'll add them to this thread.

                                        ARKADY! CHECK YOUR EMAIL!

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                                        • irina@wandering.shopI irina@wandering.shop

                                          @jaz And if they do pay up, will you let them post?

                                          jaz@toot.walesJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          jaz@toot.wales
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #25

                                          @irina

                                          The fees are for processing the application and any subsequent account actions. All accounts are in pending mode until fees are paid.

                                          Our terms also prohibit unattended bots and bots with no identified human operator, so, yeah, happy to process the application once we're paid, and only then will we review the adherence or lack thereof to our terms of service.

                                          So, in short, no.

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