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The state of publishing right now

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  • lcamtuf@infosec.exchangeL lcamtuf@infosec.exchange

    The state of publishing right now

    canleaf@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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    #28

    @lcamtuf Ageng AI Alexander gave the task to create a book, Agent AI Elon created this, Agent AI Sam recitified that, Agent AI Mark published this and Agent AI Jeff sells this. full chainof commands. look no human.

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    • nousersmanual@social.vivaldi.netN nousersmanual@social.vivaldi.net

      @lcamtuf also one review mentions that every chapter is chapter 6.

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      #29

      @nousersmanual @lcamtuf satanic!

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      • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

        @lcamtuf This kind of thing makes me really worried about my kids if I ever have kids, or any child in my family.

        What do I do if this is still a problem by that time & they're accidentally given one of these for Christmas? How do I get it away from them as quickly as possible without causing a memorable scene? How are you supposed to handle infohazards & memetic hazards near children?

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        #30

        @jackemled Before I had children, I thought the role of a good parent is to let them develop their views without getting in the way.

        Now, I sort of recognize that this is more or less a fantasy. *Everyone* wants to raise your children their own way. Teachers, book authors, toy makers, your crazy aunt / neighbor, TikTok slop-mongers, smartphone manufacturers... so you kinda have to play an active role.

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        • lcamtuf@infosec.exchangeL lcamtuf@infosec.exchange

          @jackemled Before I had children, I thought the role of a good parent is to let them develop their views without getting in the way.

          Now, I sort of recognize that this is more or less a fantasy. *Everyone* wants to raise your children their own way. Teachers, book authors, toy makers, your crazy aunt / neighbor, TikTok slop-mongers, smartphone manufacturers... so you kinda have to play an active role.

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          #31

          @lcamtuf Yeah, I think it's good to give kids information & teach them how to process it & think critically so they're prepared for when you aren't there anymore. That lets them develop on their own but you're still there to moderate, raise them, & teach them to be good.

          My questions are about what to do in this specific situation, where a child is given something like this that is such an unusual danger. Usually you want your kids to remember danger they were exposed to so they know to avoid it; so they can walk carefully instead of tripping & scraping their knees. However this is a danger that must be forgotten. Remembering anything out of one of these is like getting a papercut that you don't know is there until it gets infected. You can't even discuss what this danger was with your child until it has been completely forgotten & can't be remembered.

          Maybe I'm worrying too much, but it's scary. This isn't something you can put a bandage on & tell them "don't do that again" about.

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          • lcamtuf@infosec.exchangeL lcamtuf@infosec.exchange

            The state of publishing right now

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            #32

            @lcamtuf I guess only that any hint for Dinosaurs to birds like owls may be missing in the book 🤷‍♂️

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            • nousersmanual@social.vivaldi.netN nousersmanual@social.vivaldi.net

              @lcamtuf also one review mentions that every chapter is chapter 6.

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              #33

              @nousersmanual @lcamtuf
              AI generated book, with most likely AI generated text, and bot reviews to inflate the review stars to 5. Most people don't buy AI books because it is scum. If you bought this book - it is entirely fair to get a refund on the stand of shit quality, and complain it is AI generated and it is not mentioned anywhere. Leave a 1 star review to warn people.

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              • jargoggles@kolektiva.socialJ jargoggles@kolektiva.social

                @lcamtuf
                A family member bought a potty training book for my toddler and it was definitely AI slop. When we told them about it, they were very sorry. The title was very similar to a popular potty training title, so it was an easy mistake.

                It's really infuriating that someone would make this. They clearly thought it was no big deal, they'll slop out a silly book about going to the bathroom. But potty training is a serious developmental moment for a child. They need lots of reassurance, patience, and understanding.

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                @jargoggles if only there was a way to buy books at a place where you could ask people if a book is good or not or get some real recommendations. One could call it a „book store“. And maybe real people would work there.

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                • lcamtuf@infosec.exchangeL lcamtuf@infosec.exchange

                  The state of publishing right now

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                  #35

                  @lcamtuf make sure you are totally sober when looking at this picture

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                  • drangnon@hachyderm.ioD drangnon@hachyderm.io

                    @lcamtuf make sure you are totally sober when looking at this picture

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                    @lcamtuf anyhow I noticed two versions of the book each with different author. the one that isn't the one you have in pictures here, seems like it's not AI slop... but it's not that great either for what it purports to be

                    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0GY862XJM/?

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                    • drangnon@hachyderm.ioD drangnon@hachyderm.io

                      @lcamtuf anyhow I noticed two versions of the book each with different author. the one that isn't the one you have in pictures here, seems like it's not AI slop... but it's not that great either for what it purports to be

                      https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0GY862XJM/?

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                      #37

                      @draNgNon @lcamtuf what a sentence.

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                      • miclgael@hachyderm.ioM miclgael@hachyderm.io

                        @draNgNon @lcamtuf what a sentence.

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                        @miclgael @lcamtuf apologies, my brain is still smarting from the zebra image

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                        • lcamtuf@infosec.exchangeL lcamtuf@infosec.exchange

                          The state of publishing right now

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                          @lcamtuf
                          I'm so fucking tired

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