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Answering unknown number calls on my cell phone like a receptionist really confuses scammers.

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  • colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.network

    @sollat @vees Extra points if you said "Ain't nobody got time for that!""

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    #46

    @ColesStreetPothole @vees
    I can’t land that one. I can hang up fast though.

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    • vees@jawns.clubV vees@jawns.club

      Answering unknown number calls on my cell phone like a receptionist really confuses scammers.

      "Good afternoon, thanks for calling!"

      "Hello."

      "Hi, who's calling please?"

      "This is Experian Security Services calling to discuss an urgent issue with your account."

      "Who are you trying to reach?"

      "I am looking to talk to the owner of this phone number."

      "I'm sorry, I'll need a name to help you."

      30 seconds of silence.

      Call hangs up.

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      #47

      @vees

      Beautiful.. I love playing games with scammers too.

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      • vees@jawns.clubV vees@jawns.club

        Answering unknown number calls on my cell phone like a receptionist really confuses scammers.

        "Good afternoon, thanks for calling!"

        "Hello."

        "Hi, who's calling please?"

        "This is Experian Security Services calling to discuss an urgent issue with your account."

        "Who are you trying to reach?"

        "I am looking to talk to the owner of this phone number."

        "I'm sorry, I'll need a name to help you."

        30 seconds of silence.

        Call hangs up.

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        #48

        @vees - I do this too! "Good afternoon, how may I direct your call?"

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        • vees@jawns.clubV vees@jawns.club

          Answering unknown number calls on my cell phone like a receptionist really confuses scammers.

          "Good afternoon, thanks for calling!"

          "Hello."

          "Hi, who's calling please?"

          "This is Experian Security Services calling to discuss an urgent issue with your account."

          "Who are you trying to reach?"

          "I am looking to talk to the owner of this phone number."

          "I'm sorry, I'll need a name to help you."

          30 seconds of silence.

          Call hangs up.

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          #49

          @vees I knew a woman who used to say, in a bright voice, "I have broccoli in my spcks!" There really is no way to respond to that.

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          • dshan@mastodon.auD dshan@mastodon.au

            @vees Thank God for iOS 26 and being able to screen unknown callers automatically. It's saved me wasting my time with this sort of pavlava and reduced my spam calls to almost zero. The single best iPhone feature since Face ID.

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            #50

            @dshan @vees Same here. But I have a few callers that will not leave the prompted name and reason for call, and instead call repeatedly. Don't they realize the call simply is not coming through without it? Maybe it's a learning process; I had a driver ask me about why my phone number prompts, and they are an iPhone user.

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            • patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.social

              @vees i usually 'put them on hold for a second' ... just put my phone down and carry on doing whatever it was that they interrupted. occasionally hear their faint "hello?"s. see how long they hold out before hanging up. any second they waste with me is a second they're not scamming somebody

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              #51

              @patrick_h_lauke @vees

              A few seconds of silence often seems to do the job. They hang up. I assume it's a super-optimised operation.

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                #52

                @effariwhy @vees “Shouldn’t you already know?”
                “Aw, you got me…this is the CIA.”

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                • vees@jawns.clubV vees@jawns.club

                  Answering unknown number calls on my cell phone like a receptionist really confuses scammers.

                  "Good afternoon, thanks for calling!"

                  "Hello."

                  "Hi, who's calling please?"

                  "This is Experian Security Services calling to discuss an urgent issue with your account."

                  "Who are you trying to reach?"

                  "I am looking to talk to the owner of this phone number."

                  "I'm sorry, I'll need a name to help you."

                  30 seconds of silence.

                  Call hangs up.

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                  #53

                  @vees can confirm that "This is Ellie, how may I direct your call?" also works fabulously.

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                  • jspath55@chaos.socialJ jspath55@chaos.social

                    @kerravonsen Good one. I've found the words that correspond to our numbers digits; I should try saying those out loud to scammers and wait for the "huh, what?".

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                    #54

                    @jspath55 Even better!

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                    • vees@jawns.clubV vees@jawns.club

                      Answering unknown number calls on my cell phone like a receptionist really confuses scammers.

                      "Good afternoon, thanks for calling!"

                      "Hello."

                      "Hi, who's calling please?"

                      "This is Experian Security Services calling to discuss an urgent issue with your account."

                      "Who are you trying to reach?"

                      "I am looking to talk to the owner of this phone number."

                      "I'm sorry, I'll need a name to help you."

                      30 seconds of silence.

                      Call hangs up.

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                      #55

                      @vees Another way I trap scammers is if they ask for "Mrs" (my-surname). I will cheerfully say "There's no Mrs MySurname here!"
                      Because I'm not, and have never been, married, therefore there is no "Mrs." here.

                      Yes, sometimes this catches legitimate callers, but only if they have never had dealings with me before... which is rare.

                      A variation on that is "No, she's not here, can I take a message?"

                      They never leave a message.

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                      • codebam@mstdn.caC codebam@mstdn.ca

                        @vees I just tell them I use Linux and half the time their scam involves installing Windows only software. They immediately hang up

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                        #56

                        @codebam @vees There was one time, and one time only, that I had the patience to lead them on as they were directing me to do things like open my Windows Registry, and I played the dumb-user card and said, "but I can't find that, it isn't on my menu" and so on.
                        I wasn't very patient, though, because after five minutes I broke down and said "I'm running Linux, and I know you are a scammer, goodbye!"

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                        • kerravonsen@mastodon.auK kerravonsen@mastodon.au

                          @codebam @vees There was one time, and one time only, that I had the patience to lead them on as they were directing me to do things like open my Windows Registry, and I played the dumb-user card and said, "but I can't find that, it isn't on my menu" and so on.
                          I wasn't very patient, though, because after five minutes I broke down and said "I'm running Linux, and I know you are a scammer, goodbye!"

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                          #57

                          @kerravonsen @vees If you go through what they want you to do they usually have you open Event Viewer and tell you you need antivirus software. Once they have remote control they can do anything, depends who you're dealing with and what they find on your PC. Often they try to send themselves money from your bank account

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                          • green_bens@mastodon.greenG green_bens@mastodon.green

                            @vees My daughter tries to sell them double glazing.

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                            #58

                            @green_bens @vees Good one!

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                            • kerravonsen@mastodon.auK kerravonsen@mastodon.au

                              @vees Another way I trap scammers is if they ask for "Mrs" (my-surname). I will cheerfully say "There's no Mrs MySurname here!"
                              Because I'm not, and have never been, married, therefore there is no "Mrs." here.

                              Yes, sometimes this catches legitimate callers, but only if they have never had dealings with me before... which is rare.

                              A variation on that is "No, she's not here, can I take a message?"

                              They never leave a message.

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                              #59

                              @kerravonsen @vees Connecting you with Mrs. [surname].
                              "Woof. Woof woof!"

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                              • vees@jawns.clubV vees@jawns.club

                                Answering unknown number calls on my cell phone like a receptionist really confuses scammers.

                                "Good afternoon, thanks for calling!"

                                "Hello."

                                "Hi, who's calling please?"

                                "This is Experian Security Services calling to discuss an urgent issue with your account."

                                "Who are you trying to reach?"

                                "I am looking to talk to the owner of this phone number."

                                "I'm sorry, I'll need a name to help you."

                                30 seconds of silence.

                                Call hangs up.

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                                #60

                                @vees I found out it is working with other languages. I am German but live in Romania. When they call I ask if we can speak in English. After many years now I can say, none of them want that. They hang up or say no and hang up.

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                                • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

                                  @acm_redfox @vees this will actually work in USA, where the mobile numbers are mixed up in the dialplan with all the others (in other parts of the world, mobile numbers have their own code prefix and most of the scammers know this (although we do also have Communications Minstries and regulators with more teeth, so its not that common to get a real human making a scam call (more often only odd voice messages, sometimes in Chinese))

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                                  #61

                                  @vfrmedia @acm_redfox @vees
                                  I don't see where this fact is preventing the approach from working?
                                  Do you think the scanner will complain "this is a mobile number, you can't be a receptionist"?

                                  The scammers work with a script (and on a tight schedule) on the first level any significant deviation from the script will lead to them hanging up.

                                  It's important to remember that it's quite likely that the people who call you are victims themself in some way. They might be tricked into believing they are doing a valid job, the job might be their only income, or they are even forced to do the job

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                                  • vees@jawns.clubV vees@jawns.club

                                    Answering unknown number calls on my cell phone like a receptionist really confuses scammers.

                                    "Good afternoon, thanks for calling!"

                                    "Hello."

                                    "Hi, who's calling please?"

                                    "This is Experian Security Services calling to discuss an urgent issue with your account."

                                    "Who are you trying to reach?"

                                    "I am looking to talk to the owner of this phone number."

                                    "I'm sorry, I'll need a name to help you."

                                    30 seconds of silence.

                                    Call hangs up.

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                                    #62

                                    @vees I did this once and eventually the caller told me "I'm trying to reach Mr Cheeky Bastard" before hanging up.

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                                    • cigitalgem@sigmoid.socialC cigitalgem@sigmoid.social

                                      @rasterweb @vees I have found that to be the case too. "Please acknowledge that you understand this call is being recorded." Always speeds things along.

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                                      #63

                                      @cigitalgem @rasterweb @vees Il have to try that receptionist thing! My way of dealing with known scammers so far was to just leave my phone on mute and continue with my work. Most calls I receive don't connect the scammer until I press a key, so I'm certain it's a scam and every second they wait for an answer is a second they're not trying to scam someone else...

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                                      • juliarez@chaos.socialJ juliarez@chaos.social

                                        @vees

                                        Excellent!

                                        The last time I had a 'your computer has a virus' call, it was quite easy to drop into 'Busy ops department':

                                        scam: 'yr computer, etc'

                                        JHR, tired: 'right. which one?'

                                        S: 'its running windows'

                                        JHR: 'do you have a service tag?'

                                        S: ' ... '

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                                        #64

                                        @JuliaRez @vees I distinctly remember frantically searching for windows XP screenshots from Ubuntu to play along with that sort of scam, whilst acting as a half dead old man who needed everything repeating about 3 times and couldn't find his glasses for a few minutes.

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                                        • raymierussell@mastodon.scotR raymierussell@mastodon.scot

                                          @vees

                                          I sometimes answer pretending to speak french and saying a couple of phrases I learned at school 40 years ago.

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                                          #65

                                          @raymierussell @vees I live in Poland, and I have found just answering with "Hello, how may I help?" Cuts down on human scammers tremendously.

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