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  3. Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT.

Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT.

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    @boelder The FCC officially decided that environmental regulations don't apply to them (after not following them anyway for decades) a few days ago https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-425491A1.pdf

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    #42

    @sundogplanets

    It is the -actual- environment. Put it on the list of things we'll have to address in Jan 2027.

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      SpaceX just got approved for 15,000 more direct-to-cell satellites: https://www.fcc.gov/document/spacex-approved-ngso-mss-system-direct-device-services

      Giant, bright, radio-loud. Fuck. I just saw SO MANY SATELLITES in my sky. Guess there will be more. And then lots of debris.

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      #43

      But DON'T WORRY EVERYONE, the FCC will almost certainly approve SpaceX's one million satellite filing soon, so this will seem like nothing!

      sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS farah@beige.partyF artemis@climatejustice.socialA stuartyeates@cloudisland.nzS bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.orgB 6 Replies Last reply
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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        But DON'T WORRY EVERYONE, the FCC will almost certainly approve SpaceX's one million satellite filing soon, so this will seem like nothing!

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        #44

        Oof. My dark sarcasm levels have shot through the roof and entered orbit. Time to sign off for the night.

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          But DON'T WORRY EVERYONE, the FCC will almost certainly approve SpaceX's one million satellite filing soon, so this will seem like nothing!

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          #45

          @sundogplanets Oh FFS

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            Oof. My dark sarcasm levels have shot through the roof and entered orbit. Time to sign off for the night.

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            #46

            @sundogplanets You are go for TLI

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              Oof. My dark sarcasm levels have shot through the roof and entered orbit. Time to sign off for the night.

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              #47
              @sundogplanets

              The situation is also through the roof. We're with you. We're glad someone is paying attention.
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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                But DON'T WORRY EVERYONE, the FCC will almost certainly approve SpaceX's one million satellite filing soon, so this will seem like nothing!

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                #48

                @sundogplanets that line of the tune from Firefly/Serenity regularly comes to mind -
                'Take my love, take my land
                Take me where I cannot stand
                I don't care, I'm still free
                You can't take the sky from me...'

                Turns out they can, in fact, take the sky from me.

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  But DON'T WORRY EVERYONE, the FCC will almost certainly approve SpaceX's one million satellite filing soon, so this will seem like nothing!

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                  #49

                  @sundogplanets

                  Don't worry, a single EMP in low earth orbit should take them all out, right?

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    SpaceX just got approved for 15,000 more direct-to-cell satellites: https://www.fcc.gov/document/spacex-approved-ngso-mss-system-direct-device-services

                    Giant, bright, radio-loud. Fuck. I just saw SO MANY SATELLITES in my sky. Guess there will be more. And then lots of debris.

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                    #50

                    @sundogplanets

                    Meanwhile, I am not aware of anyone I know personally who has ever used direct-to-cell satellite service.

                    Making even more mess of the sky for no reason at all...

                    (I have known people who used Starlink until they could find a better alternative.)

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                    • syvash@mastodon.socialS syvash@mastodon.social

                      @f4grx @sundogplanets sorry but we need satellite communications, kessler syndrome would mean we go into WW3 with a much larger handicap than already now (which in turn increases the likelihood of WW3)

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                      #51

                      @sundogplanets @syvash @f4grx these bastards would definitely use a Kessler event as an excuse for WWIII

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                      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                        @sundogplanets We should rebrand SpaceX™️ == SpaceTrash™️

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                        #52

                        @stux @sundogplanets TrashX

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                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                          But DON'T WORRY EVERYONE, the FCC will almost certainly approve SpaceX's one million satellite filing soon, so this will seem like nothing!

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                          #53

                          @sundogplanets

                          I tried to start writing parody lyrics to Eminem's stanza in “Without Me” that starts 🎶 The FCC won't let me be … 🎶 but didn't get very far.

                          And I sure as 🤬 am not going to burn data center time spending LLM-gen-AI tokens on making the joke for me (it wouldn't be good anyway).

                          So, please insert here a stanza of your own making to the tune of that rap about FCC, Elon Musk, and Starlink.

                          Come to think of it, I suspect Elon & Eminem might share a worldview. 🤔
                          cc: @jrdepriest

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            Oof. My dark sarcasm levels have shot through the roof and entered orbit. Time to sign off for the night.

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                            #54

                            @sundogplanets
                            Some situations call for dark sarcasm.

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                              #55

                              @geolaw @sundogplanets I’m really referring to the issue of overloading orbit making space stuff ostensibly impossible.

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                              • boelder@shakedown.socialB boelder@shakedown.social

                                @sundogplanets

                                What are these metals doing to our upper atmosphere after de-orbit? At one point, we'd have insisted on studying this extensively before launching tens of thousands of satellites that will eventually come back down ... now, when you're a trillionaire, they just let you do it.

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                                #56

                                @boelder @sundogplanets They will destroy the ozone layer.

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  But DON'T WORRY EVERYONE, the FCC will almost certainly approve SpaceX's one million satellite filing soon, so this will seem like nothing!

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                                  #57

                                  @sundogplanets ugh 😭

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                                  • ldmay65@universeodon.comL ldmay65@universeodon.com

                                    @sundogplanets
                                    Some situations call for dark sarcasm.

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                                    #58

                                    @ldmay65 @sundogplanets but not in the classroom. Teacher, leave them kids alone (all in all, you're just another brick in the wall).

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      Everybody has to coordinate with Starlink because SPACEX CONTROLS ORBIT. That's against the Outer Space Treaty.

                                      Your engineering challenge, SpaceX, is to provide your services with fewer satellites. Not yell at everyone else for having satellites too.

                                      https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/117407452552952599

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                                      #59

                                      @sundogplanets They say they have to do 1000 evasive maneuvers per day. I would guess that as the number of manuvers needed would go up as the square of the number of objects, since every satellite has to avoid every other one. If so, if they make their fleet 10x larger which is less than they plan to, wouldn't they need to do 100k panic moves per day?

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                                      • stuartyeates@cloudisland.nzS stuartyeates@cloudisland.nz

                                        @sundogplanets

                                        Don't worry, a single EMP in low earth orbit should take them all out, right?

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                                        #60
                                        @stuartyeates @sundogplanets Multiple EMP would be needed since they encompass the earth in a shell. Then the satellites would not be able to be controlled for collision avoidance. Hello Kessler Syndrome.

                                        Better to just ask Grok to take control and deorbit them all into the ocean at Point Nemo.
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                                        • nxskok@cupoftea.socialN nxskok@cupoftea.social

                                          @ldmay65 @sundogplanets but not in the classroom. Teacher, leave them kids alone (all in all, you're just another brick in the wall).

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                                          #61

                                          @ldmay65 @sundogplanets the irony of one of the people I mentioned being at a university.

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