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When people say Shakespeare isn't relevant to modern life it's good to have people like Sir Ian around to prove them wrong:

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  • me@social.taupehat.comM me@social.taupehat.com

    When people say Shakespeare isn't relevant to modern life it's good to have people like Sir Ian around to prove them wrong:

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    bruce@allovertheplace.ca
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    #6

    @NicksWorld Well, I still believe that Shakespeare has no relevance to modern life. And to have someone with an equally obsolete lordship behind their name try to say otherwise just proves my point. If we weren't told that Shakespeare was supposed to be this awesome contributor to English literature, I'm not at all sure that he would be.

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    • me@social.taupehat.comM me@social.taupehat.com

      When people say Shakespeare isn't relevant to modern life it's good to have people like Sir Ian around to prove them wrong:

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      #7

      @me

      This is so moving for it is true still and more relevant than ever.
      And Sir McAllen has such a presence and transports and invoces that much emotion, that it had me tearing up listening to him.

      This is human art.
      This is human heart.
      Stuff like this is what we need to hear more often.
      Humans like this is who we should listen and look up to.

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      • me@social.taupehat.comM me@social.taupehat.com

        When people say Shakespeare isn't relevant to modern life it's good to have people like Sir Ian around to prove them wrong:

        richardinsandy@c.imR This user is from outside of this forum
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        richardinsandy@c.im
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        #8

        @me Brilliant.

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        • me@social.taupehat.comM me@social.taupehat.com

          When people say Shakespeare isn't relevant to modern life it's good to have people like Sir Ian around to prove them wrong:

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          pdd@mastodon.social
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          #9

          @me When I saw this yesterday for the first time, it shook me right away. I was not ready for this.

          I don't know if I am ready for it now. Too many emotions in such a short time.

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          • me@social.taupehat.comM me@social.taupehat.com

            When people say Shakespeare isn't relevant to modern life it's good to have people like Sir Ian around to prove them wrong:

            karlauerbach@sfba.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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            karlauerbach@sfba.social
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            #10

            @me As an aside - Shakespeare's plays are still often performed - there are many good companies who have actors and directors who know how to make the old language and action comprehensible to modern ears and eyes.

            Seeing Shakespeare performed, live on stage, is usually better than seeing it on video or film - There is an actor-audience interaction that occurs with live performances that is lost on film.

            My own suggestion is that Shakespeare nay-sayers go to any of the many summer festivals.

            My favorite company is Santa Cruz Shakespeare.

            https://santacruzshakespeare.org/

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            • alexcorby@indieauthors.socialA alexcorby@indieauthors.social

              @me Fun Fact I found out just now. This speech was written by Shakespeare but never performed on stage in his lifetime as it was banned by the Queen's censor.

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              apostateenglishman@mastodon.world
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              #11

              @me @AlexCorby Another fun fact: scholars generally agree that Pericles was likely co-written, with the first two acts attributed to George Wilkins and only the remainder to Shakespeare.

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              • karlauerbach@sfba.socialK karlauerbach@sfba.social

                @me As an aside - Shakespeare's plays are still often performed - there are many good companies who have actors and directors who know how to make the old language and action comprehensible to modern ears and eyes.

                Seeing Shakespeare performed, live on stage, is usually better than seeing it on video or film - There is an actor-audience interaction that occurs with live performances that is lost on film.

                My own suggestion is that Shakespeare nay-sayers go to any of the many summer festivals.

                My favorite company is Santa Cruz Shakespeare.

                https://santacruzshakespeare.org/

                me@social.taupehat.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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                me@social.taupehat.com
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                #12

                @karlauerbach as a former resident of Ashland, Oregon I can only agree about seeing Shakespeare performed live.

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                • benjamincox@writing.exchangeB benjamincox@writing.exchange

                  @me My takeaway from this is you do not piss off Gandalf. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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                  me@social.taupehat.com
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                  #13

                  @benjamincox only now figuring this out?

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                  • me@social.taupehat.comM me@social.taupehat.com

                    @benjamincox only now figuring this out?

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                    benjamincox@writing.exchange
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                    #14

                    @me Just nice to be reminded. If only everyone took notice. 😁

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                    • me@social.taupehat.comM me@social.taupehat.com

                      When people say Shakespeare isn't relevant to modern life it's good to have people like Sir Ian around to prove them wrong:

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                      #15

                      @me "And thus I clothe my naked villany in old odd ends, stolen forth from holy writ, and seem a saint when most I play the Devil", meaning "I'm an asshole but I pretend to be a pious Christian" - seems pretty timely as well...

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                      • me@social.taupehat.comM me@social.taupehat.com

                        When people say Shakespeare isn't relevant to modern life it's good to have people like Sir Ian around to prove them wrong:

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                        #16

                        @me I'd happily buy tickets to Sir Ian reading the phone book.

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                        • me@social.taupehat.comM me@social.taupehat.com

                          When people say Shakespeare isn't relevant to modern life it's good to have people like Sir Ian around to prove them wrong:

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                          @me So good.

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                          • me@social.taupehat.comM me@social.taupehat.com

                            When people say Shakespeare isn't relevant to modern life it's good to have people like Sir Ian around to prove them wrong:

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                            amoshias@esq.social
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                            @me I have no doubt that there are people out there who say that Shakespeare is irrelevant to modern life. I cannot imagine there is a single person who says that who has an actual argument to put behind the statement.

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                            • me@social.taupehat.comM me@social.taupehat.com

                              When people say Shakespeare isn't relevant to modern life it's good to have people like Sir Ian around to prove them wrong:

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                              @me
                              This is amazing.

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                              • A amoshias@esq.social

                                @me I have no doubt that there are people out there who say that Shakespeare is irrelevant to modern life. I cannot imagine there is a single person who says that who has an actual argument to put behind the statement.

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                                @Amoshias the "arguments" that I've heard usually revolve around the language being difficult.

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                                • me@social.taupehat.comM me@social.taupehat.com

                                  @Amoshias the "arguments" that I've heard usually revolve around the language being difficult.

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                                  #21

                                  @me @Amoshias Well, it is. That doesn't make the things the language conveys irrelevant. But if it fails to conmvey it, I guess it does become irrelevant. English being my second language I find it too hard (more like impossible) to understand what he was trying to say. No idea how it is for somebody from Ebgland. I find it interesting how I couldn't tell you the exact and complete meaning of a single sentence in this video. But I do understand the overall thing. That doesn't work when I try to read Shakespear. So probabaly good acting helps.

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                                  • steeph@todon.euS steeph@todon.eu

                                    @me @Amoshias Well, it is. That doesn't make the things the language conveys irrelevant. But if it fails to conmvey it, I guess it does become irrelevant. English being my second language I find it too hard (more like impossible) to understand what he was trying to say. No idea how it is for somebody from Ebgland. I find it interesting how I couldn't tell you the exact and complete meaning of a single sentence in this video. But I do understand the overall thing. That doesn't work when I try to read Shakespear. So probabaly good acting helps.

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                                    me@social.taupehat.com
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                                    #22

                                    @steeph @Amoshias part of it has to do with American culture - anything with an English accent can often be considered "high-falutin" by some, and Renaissance-era English especially so. There's also the reality that most of us are exposed to Shakespeare first on the written page, where tone and fluency can't be conveyed. Hearing it spoken by good actors is a totally different experience.

                                    I was lucky to have an enthusiastic and effective Shakespeare teacher in high school. He and I could barely stand to be around one another due to personality issues, but he did manage to convey to me a love for the form.

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                                    • steeph@todon.euS steeph@todon.eu

                                      @me @Amoshias Well, it is. That doesn't make the things the language conveys irrelevant. But if it fails to conmvey it, I guess it does become irrelevant. English being my second language I find it too hard (more like impossible) to understand what he was trying to say. No idea how it is for somebody from Ebgland. I find it interesting how I couldn't tell you the exact and complete meaning of a single sentence in this video. But I do understand the overall thing. That doesn't work when I try to read Shakespear. So probabaly good acting helps.

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                                      amoshias@esq.social
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                                      #23

                                      @steeph @me I mean, by that token, everything that has ever been written in Chinese is not relevant to me, because I don't speak Chinese. people don't understand the tax code but I promise that it is relevant to them 🙂

                                      I'm not necessarily trying to argue with you - I'm trying to get to heart of "what would someone actually MEAN by that, though, when saying Shakespeare isn't relevant?"

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                                      • A amoshias@esq.social

                                        @steeph @me I mean, by that token, everything that has ever been written in Chinese is not relevant to me, because I don't speak Chinese. people don't understand the tax code but I promise that it is relevant to them 🙂

                                        I'm not necessarily trying to argue with you - I'm trying to get to heart of "what would someone actually MEAN by that, though, when saying Shakespeare isn't relevant?"

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                                        #24

                                        @Amoshias @me Yeah, it seems it could mean different things.

                                        But how can you not speak Chinese in this day and age?! … jk. Who does?

                                        Another way to put it is to say that I'm ignorant of what Shakespear's work means to me because I don't understand it and therefore I live with the assumption that it is meaningless to me.

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                                        • me@social.taupehat.comM me@social.taupehat.com

                                          When people say Shakespeare isn't relevant to modern life it's good to have people like Sir Ian around to prove them wrong:

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                                          #25

                                          @me Ian McKellen is a god of acting

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