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  3. Today, the Commission has preliminarily found TikTok in breach of the DSA, for its addictive design.

Today, the Commission has preliminarily found TikTok in breach of the DSA, for its addictive design.

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  • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

    Today, the Commission has preliminarily found TikTok in breach of the DSA, for its addictive design.

    This includes features such as infinite scroll, autoplay, push notifications, and its highly personalised recommender system.

    TikTok seems to fail to implement reasonable, proportionate and effective measures to mitigate risks stemming from its addictive design.

    At this stage, the Commission considers that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

    🔗: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_312

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    #15

    @HennaVirkkunen I certainly recognize those things together do make for an addictive experience. That the EU requires effective mitigation via time management controls is interesting.

    I suppose these should indeed have some sensible defaults that try to discourage people from staying with the app indefinitely and aren't too trivially dismissed... I wonder what ideas @dansup has regarding features like these for the @loops platform.

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    • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

      Today, the Commission has preliminarily found TikTok in breach of the DSA, for its addictive design.

      This includes features such as infinite scroll, autoplay, push notifications, and its highly personalised recommender system.

      TikTok seems to fail to implement reasonable, proportionate and effective measures to mitigate risks stemming from its addictive design.

      At this stage, the Commission considers that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

      🔗: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_312

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      #16

      @HennaVirkkunen why has this never applied to facebook or twitter?

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      • nf3xn@mastodon.socialN nf3xn@mastodon.social

        @HennaVirkkunen why has this never applied to facebook or twitter?

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        #17

        @HennaVirkkunen or ec.social-network.europa.eu even?

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        • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

          Today, the Commission has preliminarily found TikTok in breach of the DSA, for its addictive design.

          This includes features such as infinite scroll, autoplay, push notifications, and its highly personalised recommender system.

          TikTok seems to fail to implement reasonable, proportionate and effective measures to mitigate risks stemming from its addictive design.

          At this stage, the Commission considers that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

          🔗: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_312

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          #18

          @HennaVirkkunen

          X, Instagram, and Facebook next.

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          • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

            Today, the Commission has preliminarily found TikTok in breach of the DSA, for its addictive design.

            This includes features such as infinite scroll, autoplay, push notifications, and its highly personalised recommender system.

            TikTok seems to fail to implement reasonable, proportionate and effective measures to mitigate risks stemming from its addictive design.

            At this stage, the Commission considers that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

            🔗: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_312

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            #19

            @HennaVirkkunen most socisl media app hsve those same ux and ui pattern. This is ridiculous. Tiktok should have fines for dangerous trends and challanges on the platform and for censorship instead

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            • enea90@mastodon.socialE enea90@mastodon.social

              @HennaVirkkunen Indeed, there are lots of things that are wrong with TikTok. Luckily, the Fediverse has an alternative to TikTok called Loops, that is gaining pace, and is welcoming new users.

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              #20

              @Enea90 @HennaVirkkunen loops has an algorithms all algorithms can be addictive even the ethical one. Loops also have infinite scrolling . Sorry but the arguments are bad and if loops get mainstream the EU will go after it

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              • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                Today, the Commission has preliminarily found TikTok in breach of the DSA, for its addictive design.

                This includes features such as infinite scroll, autoplay, push notifications, and its highly personalised recommender system.

                TikTok seems to fail to implement reasonable, proportionate and effective measures to mitigate risks stemming from its addictive design.

                At this stage, the Commission considers that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                🔗: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_312

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                #21

                @HennaVirkkunen
                #Mastodon has the same design features!

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                • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                  Today, the Commission has preliminarily found TikTok in breach of the DSA, for its addictive design.

                  This includes features such as infinite scroll, autoplay, push notifications, and its highly personalised recommender system.

                  TikTok seems to fail to implement reasonable, proportionate and effective measures to mitigate risks stemming from its addictive design.

                  At this stage, the Commission considers that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                  🔗: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_312

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                  #22

                  @HennaVirkkunen It's good that TikTok is getting scrutinized but isn't infinite scrolling widespread, including on your own Mastodon instance?

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                  • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                    Today, the Commission has preliminarily found TikTok in breach of the DSA, for its addictive design.

                    This includes features such as infinite scroll, autoplay, push notifications, and its highly personalised recommender system.

                    TikTok seems to fail to implement reasonable, proportionate and effective measures to mitigate risks stemming from its addictive design.

                    At this stage, the Commission considers that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                    🔗: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_312

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                    #23

                    @HennaVirkkunen what about instgram and facebook?

                    Good step, but more swift and broader action is needed "ASAP"…

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                    • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                      Today, the Commission has preliminarily found TikTok in breach of the DSA, for its addictive design.

                      This includes features such as infinite scroll, autoplay, push notifications, and its highly personalised recommender system.

                      TikTok seems to fail to implement reasonable, proportionate and effective measures to mitigate risks stemming from its addictive design.

                      At this stage, the Commission considers that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                      🔗: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_312

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                      #24

                      @HennaVirkkunen
                      Infinite scroll? You gotta be fucking kidding me. Like, you're gonna ban Google search next? You're posting on Mastodon, but you're not familiar with the global timeline? Now I really have to wonder if it's a real human there?

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                      • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                        Today, the Commission has preliminarily found TikTok in breach of the DSA, for its addictive design.

                        This includes features such as infinite scroll, autoplay, push notifications, and its highly personalised recommender system.

                        TikTok seems to fail to implement reasonable, proportionate and effective measures to mitigate risks stemming from its addictive design.

                        At this stage, the Commission considers that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                        🔗: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_312

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                        #25

                        @HennaVirkkunen This is a necessary step! Thank you for enforcing european law! 🇪🇺

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                        • superblox@mastodon.socialS superblox@mastodon.social

                          @HennaVirkkunen It's good that TikTok is getting scrutinized but isn't infinite scrolling widespread, including on your own Mastodon instance?

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                          #26

                          @superblox @HennaVirkkunen

                          It's a very different kind of infinite scroll of it's really tailored to keep you addicted.

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                          • tuuktuuk@piipitin.fiT tuuktuuk@piipitin.fi

                            @superblox @HennaVirkkunen

                            It's a very different kind of infinite scroll of it's really tailored to keep you addicted.

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                            #27

                            @Tuuktuuk @HennaVirkkunen How do you objectively distinguish from "evil" infinite scroll and "good" infinite scroll? Perhaps the evil lies in the addictive nature of highly personalized recommendations instead.

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                            • superblox@mastodon.socialS superblox@mastodon.social

                              @Tuuktuuk @HennaVirkkunen How do you objectively distinguish from "evil" infinite scroll and "good" infinite scroll? Perhaps the evil lies in the addictive nature of highly personalized recommendations instead.

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                              #28

                              @superblox @HennaVirkkunen

                              Precisely. The highly personalized recommendations are the key problem. And infinite scroll is an amplifier that makes that problem a couple magnitudes worse yet.

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                              • tuuktuuk@piipitin.fiT tuuktuuk@piipitin.fi

                                @superblox @HennaVirkkunen

                                Precisely. The highly personalized recommendations are the key problem. And infinite scroll is an amplifier that makes that problem a couple magnitudes worse yet.

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                                #29

                                @Tuuktuuk @HennaVirkkunen Yup. The algorithm is the core problem, further amplified by infinite scroll. That's what the EU should lead with. Not "infinite scroll bad".

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                                • superblox@mastodon.socialS superblox@mastodon.social

                                  @Tuuktuuk @HennaVirkkunen Yup. The algorithm is the core problem, further amplified by infinite scroll. That's what the EU should lead with. Not "infinite scroll bad".

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                                  #30

                                  @superblox @HennaVirkkunen

                                  I absolutely agree with you on that.

                                  But, there is a lack of understanding that SoMe can function without an algorithm. I believe the decision was made with that obliviousness.

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                                  • tuuktuuk@piipitin.fiT tuuktuuk@piipitin.fi

                                    @superblox @HennaVirkkunen

                                    I absolutely agree with you on that.

                                    But, there is a lack of understanding that SoMe can function without an algorithm. I believe the decision was made with that obliviousness.

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                                    #31

                                    @Tuuktuuk @HennaVirkkunen Social media existed before Facebook debuted the algorithm-driven timeline (think MySpace/Friendster). It wouldn't be bad to see a return to social media platforms that feel less like high-fructose corn syrup.

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                                    • admin@goeppingen.socialA admin@goeppingen.social

                                      @HennaVirkkunen WTF Infinte scrolling is now demonized? WTF is your problem? Where do you even live? The moon? Get your head out your ass.
                                      People like you are the issue in our societies.
                                      Too rich and pampered searching for validation for their existence by doing meaningless, destructive policing no one asked for.
                                      You are the problem.
                                      You want censorship and to spy on everyone, except yourself and your class.
                                      Disgusting.
                                      The level of self-righteous pseudoactivism is unbelievable.
                                      Get your fucking head straight.

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                                      #32

                                      @admin @HennaVirkkunen i feel it is a political move, a soft retaliation to the usa threatening greenland

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                                      • superblox@mastodon.socialS superblox@mastodon.social

                                        @Tuuktuuk @HennaVirkkunen Social media existed before Facebook debuted the algorithm-driven timeline (think MySpace/Friendster). It wouldn't be bad to see a return to social media platforms that feel less like high-fructose corn syrup.

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                                        #33

                                        @superblox @HennaVirkkunen

                                        Ab-so-lute-ly! 🤝

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                                        • admin@goeppingen.socialA admin@goeppingen.social

                                          @HennaVirkkunen WTF Infinte scrolling is now demonized? WTF is your problem? Where do you even live? The moon? Get your head out your ass.
                                          People like you are the issue in our societies.
                                          Too rich and pampered searching for validation for their existence by doing meaningless, destructive policing no one asked for.
                                          You are the problem.
                                          You want censorship and to spy on everyone, except yourself and your class.
                                          Disgusting.
                                          The level of self-righteous pseudoactivism is unbelievable.
                                          Get your fucking head straight.

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                                          #34

                                          @HennaVirkkunen @admin aaaannnndddd blocked...

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