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  3. Hot take: If we added a "--install" option to #curl, we could optimize many a "| sh -" pipeline away.

Hot take: If we added a "--install" option to #curl, we could optimize many a "| sh -" pipeline away.

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  • larsmb@mastodon.onlineL larsmb@mastodon.online

    Hot take: If we added a "--install" option to #curl, we could optimize many a "| sh -" pipeline away.

    Finally a truly universal installer.

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    #26

    @larsmb

    Not sure how "| sh" is any less secure than what people do 99.9% of the time anyway, which is download an installer or executable and not bother or validate it.

    If you really want to change the world, work out an actually secure mechanism (tall order!) and have --install implement it. Not sure what that would look like: https requirement, maybe a database of known/vetted installations, a means to report issues. Very tall order.

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    • tbortels@infosec.exchangeT tbortels@infosec.exchange

      @larsmb

      Not sure how "| sh" is any less secure than what people do 99.9% of the time anyway, which is download an installer or executable and not bother or validate it.

      If you really want to change the world, work out an actually secure mechanism (tall order!) and have --install implement it. Not sure what that would look like: https requirement, maybe a database of known/vetted installations, a means to report issues. Very tall order.

      christopherkunz@chaos.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #27

      @tbortels Well that's, like... a package manager? Let's call it cURL Universal Package System and abbreviate it CUPS... oh damn.

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      • christopherkunz@chaos.socialC christopherkunz@chaos.social

        @tbortels Well that's, like... a package manager? Let's call it cURL Universal Package System and abbreviate it CUPS... oh damn.

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        #28

        @christopherkunz

        Sadly I think I trust Badger and friends to get it right more than my package manager.

        CUPS. Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time...

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        • larsmb@mastodon.onlineL larsmb@mastodon.online

          Hot take: If we added a "--install" option to #curl, we could optimize many a "| sh -" pipeline away.

          Finally a truly universal installer.

          brouhaha@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #29

          @larsmb
          "| sh" _IS_ the curl install option

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          • larsmb@mastodon.onlineL larsmb@mastodon.online

            Hot take: If we added a "--install" option to #curl, we could optimize many a "| sh -" pipeline away.

            Finally a truly universal installer.

            freddy@social.security.plumbingF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #30

            @larsmb pair it with some yet-to-be-specified `integrity` parameter to check the file and we're there.

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            • tux0r@layer8.spaceT tux0r@layer8.space

              @larsmb Also, curl should require sudo!

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              #31

              @tux0r @larsmb when curl is invoked with `sudo`, sites should be prohibited from refusing access

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              • larsmb@mastodon.onlineL larsmb@mastodon.online

                Hot take: If we added a "--install" option to #curl, we could optimize many a "| sh -" pipeline away.

                Finally a truly universal installer.

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                #32

                @larsmb maybe --execute will be a better option because its not always a Installation script.

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                • christopherkunz@chaos.socialC christopherkunz@chaos.social

                  @tbortels Well that's, like... a package manager? Let's call it cURL Universal Package System and abbreviate it CUPS... oh damn.

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                  #33

                  @christopherkunz @tbortels Package managers are so awesome we have hundreds.

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                  • nyansen@elbmatsch.deN nyansen@elbmatsch.de

                    @larsmb maybe --execute will be a better option because its not always a Installation script.

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                    #34

                    @nyansen Ohhh how about "--rootkit"

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                    • larsmb@mastodon.onlineL larsmb@mastodon.online

                      @nyansen Ohhh how about "--rootkit"

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                      #35

                      @larsmb for a curl anti cheat system?

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