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    #1

    @julian @hongminhee

    Started writing it

    https://codeberg.org/silverpill/feps/src/branch/main/9098/fep-9098.md

    Listed requirements for the Emoji object.
    I should probably describe the microsynax there as well, and how custom emojis are rendered.

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      @julian @hongminhee

      Started writing it

      https://codeberg.org/silverpill/feps/src/branch/main/9098/fep-9098.md

      Listed requirements for the Emoji object.
      I should probably describe the microsynax there as well, and how custom emojis are rendered.

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      #2

      @silverpill @julian @hongminhee you have listed "Image is a square" but is definitely not true for Misskey. And Mastodon renders Misskeys long emojos just fine.
      Actually mastodon does fine with long emojos now too

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        @silverpill @julian @hongminhee you have listed "Image is a square" but is definitely not true for Misskey. And Mastodon renders Misskeys long emojos just fine.
        Actually mastodon does fine with long emojos now too

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        #3

        @liaizon @julian @hongminhee

        Requirements in that section are meant for those who want maximum compatibility. For example, JPEGs and images larger than 256 KB are supported by Pleroma and others, but Mastodon doesn't allow them.

        Non-square emojis are a bit more complicated. They are not rejected by most servers, but might not be displayed properly by clients.

        I just visited your instance and made a screenshot of how emoji is rendered by web UI (attached). The emoji is present, but I can't tell what is depicted there. Some clients enlarge custom emojis on hover, but not Mastodon, so I have to open the image in a new browser tab, or zoom in the page. This is no ideal, hence the recommendation in the FEP.

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          @liaizon @julian @hongminhee

          Requirements in that section are meant for those who want maximum compatibility. For example, JPEGs and images larger than 256 KB are supported by Pleroma and others, but Mastodon doesn't allow them.

          Non-square emojis are a bit more complicated. They are not rejected by most servers, but might not be displayed properly by clients.

          I just visited your instance and made a screenshot of how emoji is rendered by web UI (attached). The emoji is present, but I can't tell what is depicted there. Some clients enlarge custom emojis on hover, but not Mastodon, so I have to open the image in a new browser tab, or zoom in the page. This is no ideal, hence the recommendation in the FEP.

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          @silverpill @julian @hongminhee ugh mastodon android squishes this. These are both Mastodon bugs as far as I am concerned. I think as long as you specify what you are making maximum compatibility with that seems OK but long emojos are INCREDIBLY popular on all the misskey and misskey adjacent fediverse areas. So I would argue that usage should be spelled out in the FEP as well.

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            @silverpill @julian @hongminhee ugh mastodon android squishes this. These are both Mastodon bugs as far as I am concerned. I think as long as you specify what you are making maximum compatibility with that seems OK but long emojos are INCREDIBLY popular on all the misskey and misskey adjacent fediverse areas. So I would argue that usage should be spelled out in the FEP as well.

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            #5

            @liaizon @julian @hongminhee I added a text explaining this additional requirement: https://codeberg.org/silverpill/feps/src/branch/main/9098/fep-9098.md#additional-requirements

            Best practices for rendering custom emojis will go into different section (WIP).

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              @liaizon @julian @hongminhee I added a text explaining this additional requirement: https://codeberg.org/silverpill/feps/src/branch/main/9098/fep-9098.md#additional-requirements

              Best practices for rendering custom emojis will go into different section (WIP).

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              #6

              I finally wrote the section about rendering and submitted the proposal to the FEP repository: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/9098/fep-9098.md

              @liaizon @julian @hongminhee

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                I finally wrote the section about rendering and submitted the proposal to the FEP repository: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/9098/fep-9098.md

                @liaizon @julian @hongminhee

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                #7

                @silverpill @julian @hongminhee the thing that I tried to point out before feels like you didnt really take into consideration yet. You state "This document is based on implementations of custom emojis in Pleroma, Mastodon, Misskey and Fedibird" but Misskeys implementation has always supported long emojo and infact that type of emojo seems to be one of the most popular types in the Japanese speaking fediverse. Personally I feel this should be mentioned in the FEP

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                  @silverpill @julian @hongminhee the thing that I tried to point out before feels like you didnt really take into consideration yet. You state "This document is based on implementations of custom emojis in Pleroma, Mastodon, Misskey and Fedibird" but Misskeys implementation has always supported long emojo and infact that type of emojo seems to be one of the most popular types in the Japanese speaking fediverse. Personally I feel this should be mentioned in the FEP

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                  #8

                  @silverpill @julian @hongminhee I am really glad to see you write this up regarless, don't want to come across as negative.

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                    @silverpill @julian @hongminhee I am really glad to see you write this up regarless, don't want to come across as negative.

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                    #9

                    liaizon@social.wake.st are the long emoji horizontal or vertical?

                    The former is easier to support (setting just a max height), but the latter has concerns re: line height.

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