Holy shit.
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@graydon @darkling @cstross yes, well I can’t vouch for other countries, but in Scotland that occurred in the beginning of the 12th century. And from that point you can see a steady unstoppable growth of wealth both in the nobility and the church (who were also feudal overlords).
 Hence my comment that it’s the beginning of trickle up economies.@peterbrown I think that's more bookland/charter land (=permanent tenure for entities smaller than a sovereign, aka it's not a gift economy where the king rewards service but it all resets when anyone involved dies) rather than feudalism as such; feudalism works pretty well, and arguably better, pre-bookland.
And, yes, growth of wealth because this is the invention of private property. It's enclosure zero, the idea that land is a thing you can own. (As distinct from hold.)
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@cstross @militant_dilettante When AfD was formed, it was not a nazi party. Its founders were ordoliberal* economists whose idea was to withdraw Germany from the eurozone to alleviate the Greek debt crisis. (As a € state, Greece could no longer kill debt by devaluing the drachma. AfD figured German withdrawal would effectively devalue the euro.)
1/nI'm UK/Kanadian - I don't have a dog in that fight, but I'm still worried how many countries in the 'west' are sliding to the right. It doesn't really matter what the origins of the AfD were, but what they are right now. You know as well as I do how many far rights there are in europe and the americas.
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