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  3. Having awarded a major contract to (controversial) data firm Palantir, a growing number of NHS staff are refusing to work with the firm's tools for ethical reasons, with wider passive resistance to its deployment.

Having awarded a major contract to (controversial) data firm Palantir, a growing number of NHS staff are refusing to work with the firm's tools for ethical reasons, with wider passive resistance to its deployment.

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  • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

    Having awarded a major contract to (controversial) data firm Palantir, a growing number of NHS staff are refusing to work with the firm's tools for ethical reasons, with wider passive resistance to its deployment.

    One manger said: 'People are saying, ‘I refuse to work on this software. You have to find something else for me to do’... They’re calling it a workplace adjustment. [as] if you were disabled & needed a different desk, they’re literally treating it like that'! 

    #NHS #Palantir
    h/t FT

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    #16

    @ChrisMayLA6

    Thank you for info

    One manger said: 'People are saying, ‘I refuse to work on this software. You have to find something else for me to do’.

    A massive THANK YOU for such Persons with a conscience and backbone

    Things which cannot be found in Starmers office or among his subordinated minions.

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    • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

      Having awarded a major contract to (controversial) data firm Palantir, a growing number of NHS staff are refusing to work with the firm's tools for ethical reasons, with wider passive resistance to its deployment.

      One manger said: 'People are saying, ‘I refuse to work on this software. You have to find something else for me to do’... They’re calling it a workplace adjustment. [as] if you were disabled & needed a different desk, they’re literally treating it like that'! 

      #NHS #Palantir
      h/t FT

      nini@oldbytes.spaceN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #17

      @ChrisMayLA6 "Controversial" seems like a very non-committal term for a clearly evil outfit.

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      • reggiehere@mastodon.socialR reggiehere@mastodon.social

        @thechildofroth

        I've heard variations of this said before and while it might be a neat political deflection it completely misses the point.

        MPs are mostly, sometimes laughably ignorant of technology but you'd hope that they'd make an effort to keep up with some of the more obvious technical trends and public sentiment.

        @ChrisMayLA6

        thechildofroth@mastodon.worldT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #18

        @ReggieHere @ChrisMayLA6 to be this far in to the 21st century and not understand surveillance capitalism, as a politician, is a pretty scary place (for those of us represented by these people) to be!

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        • thechildofroth@mastodon.worldT thechildofroth@mastodon.world

          @ChrisMayLA6 BTW https://gwallter.com/politics/who-is-louis-mosley.html like it says; you can't choose your ancestors, but when your grandad was Oswald Mosley, you might think twice about taking a role leading a company named after Sauron's all seeing eye of corruption, who (for anyone paying even moderate attention) are the vanguard of tech-bro fascism....

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          #19

          @ChrisMayLA6 The other thing i asked my mp was if they thought Peter Thiel was a fit and proper person, for a nominally progressive govt, to deal with and then had to follow up when I realised they couldn't answer because govt hadn't procured the service, but direct awarded it on the back of some shady business with Mandelson....

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          • thechildofroth@mastodon.worldT thechildofroth@mastodon.world

            @ReggieHere @ChrisMayLA6 to be this far in to the 21st century and not understand surveillance capitalism, as a politician, is a pretty scary place (for those of us represented by these people) to be!

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            #20

            @thechildofroth

            I suppose the question is to what degree our MPs are aware of the global geopolitical implications, and by extension whether they themselves are conflicted.

            Running a country using software and infrastructure provided by a foreign government raises some serious questions about national sovereignty.

            @ChrisMayLA6

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            • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

              Having awarded a major contract to (controversial) data firm Palantir, a growing number of NHS staff are refusing to work with the firm's tools for ethical reasons, with wider passive resistance to its deployment.

              One manger said: 'People are saying, ‘I refuse to work on this software. You have to find something else for me to do’... They’re calling it a workplace adjustment. [as] if you were disabled & needed a different desk, they’re literally treating it like that'! 

              #NHS #Palantir
              h/t FT

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              #21

              @ChrisMayLA6 sometimes all you can do is shake your head and leave it to Darwin...

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              • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

                Having awarded a major contract to (controversial) data firm Palantir, a growing number of NHS staff are refusing to work with the firm's tools for ethical reasons, with wider passive resistance to its deployment.

                One manger said: 'People are saying, ‘I refuse to work on this software. You have to find something else for me to do’... They’re calling it a workplace adjustment. [as] if you were disabled & needed a different desk, they’re literally treating it like that'! 

                #NHS #Palantir
                h/t FT

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                #22

                @ChrisMayLA6 THis is the way. Such action needs to happen in anything to do with data centres too.

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                • H h4890@alive.bar

                  @ChrisMayLA6 Wow... impressive integrity! I wish more swedish people were like that when it comes to being forced to work with unethical companies products.

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                  #23

                  @h4890 @ChrisMayLA6 Like Microsoft!

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                  • nini@oldbytes.spaceN nini@oldbytes.space

                    @ChrisMayLA6 "Controversial" seems like a very non-committal term for a clearly evil outfit.

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                    #24

                    @nini

                    British under-statement, I'm afraid....

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                    • thechildofroth@mastodon.worldT thechildofroth@mastodon.world

                      @ChrisMayLA6 I was really pleased to see this.

                      I wrote to my (labour) MP saying I wanted to opt out of my data being given to Palantir (or anything associated with Peter Thiel) and got a very wet response about 'your data won't be hacked' (as if that was the issue...) I pointed out that having the big fox in the henhouse, keeping the other foxes out, didn't reassure me!

                      I didn't get a further response, but it does seem I'm not the only one in expressing such discomfort!

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                      #25

                      @thechildofroth @ChrisMayLA6
                      How can your MP be sure your data won’t be hacked? Is this her area of expertise?

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                      • oneinterestingfact@mastodon.ieO oneinterestingfact@mastodon.ie

                        @thechildofroth @ChrisMayLA6
                        How can your MP be sure your data won’t be hacked? Is this her area of expertise?

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                        #26

                        @OneInterestingFact @ChrisMayLA6 They can't, they were just passing on the canned response they'd been give (by Palantir)

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                        • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

                          Having awarded a major contract to (controversial) data firm Palantir, a growing number of NHS staff are refusing to work with the firm's tools for ethical reasons, with wider passive resistance to its deployment.

                          One manger said: 'People are saying, ‘I refuse to work on this software. You have to find something else for me to do’... They’re calling it a workplace adjustment. [as] if you were disabled & needed a different desk, they’re literally treating it like that'! 

                          #NHS #Palantir
                          h/t FT

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                          #27

                          @ChrisMayLA6 Read yesterday that ABP, the Dutch pension fund for civil servants, and the largest in The Netherlands, has announced it is pulling its investments in Palantir.

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                          • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

                            Having awarded a major contract to (controversial) data firm Palantir, a growing number of NHS staff are refusing to work with the firm's tools for ethical reasons, with wider passive resistance to its deployment.

                            One manger said: 'People are saying, ‘I refuse to work on this software. You have to find something else for me to do’... They’re calling it a workplace adjustment. [as] if you were disabled & needed a different desk, they’re literally treating it like that'! 

                            #NHS #Palantir
                            h/t FT

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                            #28

                            @ChrisMayLA6 you can crank up the pressure on the uk gov by signing this open letter to the uk government to cancel the #Palantir #NHS contract:

                            https://www.foxglove.org.uk/campaigns/wes-streeting-trigger-the-break-clause-and-get-palantir-out-of-the-nhs/

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                            • patrickleavy@mastodon.socialP patrickleavy@mastodon.social

                              @ChrisMayLA6 you can crank up the pressure on the uk gov by signing this open letter to the uk government to cancel the #Palantir #NHS contract:

                              https://www.foxglove.org.uk/campaigns/wes-streeting-trigger-the-break-clause-and-get-palantir-out-of-the-nhs/

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                              #29

                              @patrickleavy

                              thanks, have done so

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                              • thechildofroth@mastodon.worldT thechildofroth@mastodon.world

                                @ChrisMayLA6 I was really pleased to see this.

                                I wrote to my (labour) MP saying I wanted to opt out of my data being given to Palantir (or anything associated with Peter Thiel) and got a very wet response about 'your data won't be hacked' (as if that was the issue...) I pointed out that having the big fox in the henhouse, keeping the other foxes out, didn't reassure me!

                                I didn't get a further response, but it does seem I'm not the only one in expressing such discomfort!

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                                #30

                                @thechildofroth @ChrisMayLA6 You just needed to notify your local GP practice.

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                                • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

                                  Having awarded a major contract to (controversial) data firm Palantir, a growing number of NHS staff are refusing to work with the firm's tools for ethical reasons, with wider passive resistance to its deployment.

                                  One manger said: 'People are saying, ‘I refuse to work on this software. You have to find something else for me to do’... They’re calling it a workplace adjustment. [as] if you were disabled & needed a different desk, they’re literally treating it like that'! 

                                  #NHS #Palantir
                                  h/t FT

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                                  #31

                                  @ChrisMayLA6 and while we're rejecting #Palantir why not cut to the source of most problems: our behavioural data being harvested by #BigTech

                                  I set up a non-profit, the Rebel Tech Alliance, to show people all the non-spyware alternatives that they can switch to:

                                  https://www.rebeltechalliance.org/

                                  We have a step-by-step programme called the #BigTechWalkout 😁 Collective action we can all take individually!

                                  #privacy #surveillance

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                                  • chrismayla6@zirk.usC chrismayla6@zirk.us

                                    @nini

                                    British under-statement, I'm afraid....

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                                    #32

                                    @ChrisMayLA6 I understand, just slightly less enthused by the passive voice these days.

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                                    • patrickleavy@mastodon.socialP patrickleavy@mastodon.social

                                      @ChrisMayLA6 and while we're rejecting #Palantir why not cut to the source of most problems: our behavioural data being harvested by #BigTech

                                      I set up a non-profit, the Rebel Tech Alliance, to show people all the non-spyware alternatives that they can switch to:

                                      https://www.rebeltechalliance.org/

                                      We have a step-by-step programme called the #BigTechWalkout 😁 Collective action we can all take individually!

                                      #privacy #surveillance

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                                      #33

                                      @patrickleavy
                                      A great initiative!
                                      Regarding Protonmail: Proton must provide information to the USA, e.g. which Visa card number is used for payment; the investigating authority can then use this information to locate the possibly US owner. Proton has to do this if the Swiss authorities order it, and it has happened before. Mailbox.org is better; you can even send cash for payment by post letter there - completely anonymously! Is in Fediverse: @mailbox_org
                                      Chat: #Deltachat is fully encrypted, anonymous and very easy to use, and free (donate well seen). Deltachat's server is located in Germany; there are more Server in the EU. Deltachat is co-financed by the EU. It's also in Fediverse: @delta

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                                      • werawelt@social.tchncs.deW werawelt@social.tchncs.de

                                        @patrickleavy
                                        A great initiative!
                                        Regarding Protonmail: Proton must provide information to the USA, e.g. which Visa card number is used for payment; the investigating authority can then use this information to locate the possibly US owner. Proton has to do this if the Swiss authorities order it, and it has happened before. Mailbox.org is better; you can even send cash for payment by post letter there - completely anonymously! Is in Fediverse: @mailbox_org
                                        Chat: #Deltachat is fully encrypted, anonymous and very easy to use, and free (donate well seen). Deltachat's server is located in Germany; there are more Server in the EU. Deltachat is co-financed by the EU. It's also in Fediverse: @delta

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                                        #34

                                        @werawelt hi there, yes mailbox is good. We don't list it in the main table on that page due to not having full E2EE, but we mention it below in the text.

                                        I've been trying out Delta Chat with my co-founder. It seemed to only work well when both devices had the app open. Is that a thing? Or something that's been fixed?

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                                        • patrickleavy@mastodon.socialP patrickleavy@mastodon.social

                                          @werawelt hi there, yes mailbox is good. We don't list it in the main table on that page due to not having full E2EE, but we mention it below in the text.

                                          I've been trying out Delta Chat with my co-founder. It seemed to only work well when both devices had the app open. Is that a thing? Or something that's been fixed?

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                                          #35

                                          @patrickleavy
                                          I'm not know that problem at all. I sent posts with attachments, which were only retrieved 3 days later, without any problems.
                                          The only important thing is that both have the current deltachat version of the program. But from a security perspective, that's actually a given. The program also gives you the information when you should make an update.

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