Do not connect ANY smart devices to your network.

[jpoesen@social.jpoesen.com]

Do not connect ANY smart devices to your network. Ever.

Just don't.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/LG-smart-TVs-caught-logging-audio-with-screen-off-and-snooping-on-local-devices.1391214.0.html

[datenwolf@chaos.social]

@jpoesen

Trouble is: Those smart devices usually come with WiFi, and it's become common that ISP-owned-and-supplied routers will offer hotspots. You can bet, that the makers of smart devices are going to strike deals, to get by-default access to those hotspot WiFi access points, if they're not connected explicitly to another network to spy on.

So the recommendation is:
Do not power on ANY smart device within (radio) shouting distance to your home/network.

[jpoesen@social.jpoesen.com]

@datenwolf Crap. I didn't connect my smart fridge but it keeps broadcasting its SSID and I can supposedly only disable that by installing an app on my phone, which would undoubtedly exfiltrate as much as it could from my device and network...

I am so, so tired.

[v_d_richards@literatur.social]

@jpoesen

Know why i am currently looking for old non- smart flatscreens to buy and use and why i have the Smart TVs in our houese of the power when not in use amd not connected to the main W- land jut only guest.

[robotistry@fediscience.org]

@jpoesen @datenwolf Is it time to write the instruction manual for setting up dummy wifi accounts that are permanently disconnected from the internet just to connect the surveillance appliances to?

[thehatfox@mastodonapp.uk]

@jpoesen The vast majority of my smart devices live on a very restricted VLAN, with access only to Home Assistant.

This is the latest reminder in a long list of why it was a good idea to set that up.

[thehatfox@mastodonapp.uk]

@datenwolf @jpoesen If that becomes a reality it would be even worse than that. If rogue smart devices start auto connecting to ISP routers, they would connect to your neighbour’s network as easily as your own.

[alliat@social.vivaldi.net]

@jpoesen Sigh… The TV, the speaker, all the light bulbs, the door bell, the security system, the automatic cat feeder, the smart relays, the robot vacuum… Time to create a special little SSID just for those guys. It’s either that or convert to amish at this point.

[datenwolf@chaos.social]

@thehatfox @jpoesen

The "smart (spy) devices connecting to neighbor's networks" is exactly the scenario I want people to be aware of.

[peterfisherbooks@disabled.social]

@jpoesen our trusted entertainment devices exposed as fascist tools? nobody saw this coming. muttering dark thoughts & throwing your tv the finger every time you walk past will probably move you up on the list of agitators. i'll let you know if it works for me.