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  • awws@mastodon.socialA awws@mastodon.social

    @CiaraNi @henryk Agreed. I don't know where people find the time or what exactly they get out of it doing it inside. Kinda sad, really.

    (though I guess there is also a part of me that *wanted* to believe someone had luckily caught a raindrop corwning a bird like that, cause it woulda been kinda awesome. 😊).

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    #133

    @awws

    I can think of a few highly speculative motivations:

    • Some platforms enable users to monetise popular accounts
    • Some accounts gather lots of followers and then shift to posting other, more contentious material
    • Maybe this is a way of gathering information about large numbers of followers?
    • Maybe the person who prompted the AI thinks that these images are legitimate art and just wants to show them off without the stigma of slop
    • Maybe someone is angling for a job as a professional photographer but doesn't have a portfolio and wants to build one the easy way

    As I say, this is all just speculation.

    @CiaraNi @henryk

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    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

      @jwcph @Amorpheus Yes - this is a great example of what made me start moaning about this in the first place. It is upsetting to see fake images getting attention while the humans who took real amazing photos of real amazing moments of life on earth get asked if they used AI.

      "We should enjoy those things, not immediately assume they're part of somebody's malice" - in an ideal world, yes. But the relentless AI deceit has left us in a situation where it's fair to wonder.

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      #134

      @CiaraNi @Amorpheus Yes, we have to, but the AI-fueled deceit is forcing us into a skepticism overload that can very easily make us cynical & suspicious.

      Just earlier today I had to verify this pic & honestly I'm still not entirely sure of it (see the thread) - but it's clearly the sort of thing where, before AI, I would not assume that anyone would go through the trouble of photoshopping it, so I would have just taken it at its pretty cool face value...

      https://mastodon.social/@AwetTesfaiesus/116452226201997678

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      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

        People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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        #135

        @CiaraNi Further illustration on how educational systems have been failing. This is especially poignant during more destabilized economies of scale.

        How do we flip-the-script?..

        #BehavioralScience #CoreEducation #GenZ #Resist

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        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

          It's not, of course, generative AI that's deceiving people. It's the humans using AI to generate fake images and the humans who pass the fake images off as their own photos who are deceiving other humans.

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          #136

          @CiaraNi Absolutely. This reminds me immediately of how certain politicians lie continually. They don't expect to be believed, necessarily: but they aim to break down trust; to make people think that *all* politicians lie continually; and then they come along with their answers to everything.

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          • cauzation@mastodon.socialC cauzation@mastodon.social

            @CiaraNi Further illustration on how educational systems have been failing. This is especially poignant during more destabilized economies of scale.

            How do we flip-the-script?..

            #BehavioralScience #CoreEducation #GenZ #Resist

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            #137

            @cauZation You'd require a more stable education hierarchy, preferably built upon #DemocraticSocialist infrastructure.

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            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

              People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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              #138

              @CiaraNi As a journalist, I need more and more time only for #factChecking and I find myself no longer believing anything at the first glance unless I can see verifiable original sources. I only follow real photographers, no accounts showing photos that are not their own.
              Sometimes, the AI crap is so hard that I react, like that fake about #snails: https://steady.page/en/naturematchcuts/posts/28951404-a41f-4215-ab89-bc35dbc41233

              What really gets to me is that this #fakes keep circulating, with loads of likes and shares, and they’re right at the top of

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              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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                #139

                @CiaraNi AI will gouge out trust in almost everything online. Doubt they pondered long on that matter as they all rush to get the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

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                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                  @elaterite It may well be manipulated, rather than generated from scratch. Someone in the thread says it's faked out of two separate photos. Either way, it appears to be fake. No verified original real photo source seems to be available. And either way, I am depressed at what all this has has done to trust, as you say. Especially the way it creates mistrust towards human photographers who share some fab photo and get asked 'is that AI?'

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                  #140

                  @CiaraNi @elaterite Darn, my pride has taken a blow—no one has ever accused one of my photos as done by AI. Maybe I need to crank up the saturation slider next time? 😉

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                  • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                    @CiaraNi As a journalist, I need more and more time only for #factChecking and I find myself no longer believing anything at the first glance unless I can see verifiable original sources. I only follow real photographers, no accounts showing photos that are not their own.
                    Sometimes, the AI crap is so hard that I react, like that fake about #snails: https://steady.page/en/naturematchcuts/posts/28951404-a41f-4215-ab89-bc35dbc41233

                    What really gets to me is that this #fakes keep circulating, with loads of likes and shares, and they’re right at the top of

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                    #141

                    @CiaraNi the search results. Fact-checking is being ignored. Yes, I’ve even been told that I must be imagining things, that the AI must be right, otherwise it wouldn’t be there!

                    At the moment, it’s often enough to drive you to despair: people’s complete disconnect from nature – experiencing the world solely through a screen – is compounded by a massive flood of so-called nature accounts. Not only is our content being misused to train AI (scraping bots are causing websites to crash more and

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                    • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                      @CiaraNi the search results. Fact-checking is being ignored. Yes, I’ve even been told that I must be imagining things, that the AI must be right, otherwise it wouldn’t be there!

                      At the moment, it’s often enough to drive you to despair: people’s complete disconnect from nature – experiencing the world solely through a screen – is compounded by a massive flood of so-called nature accounts. Not only is our content being misused to train AI (scraping bots are causing websites to crash more and

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                      #142

                      @CiaraNi more frequently). The algorithms churn out fakes, misinformation. The abyss between people and nature is widening. Professional work is becoming invisible to search engines.
                      And that's dangerous for nature ... and humans.
                      I often feel like Don Quixote ... AI slop being the windmills ...

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                      • the_wub@mastodon.socialT the_wub@mastodon.social

                        @ratiogeraet @CiaraNi It is not just that.

                        Making people distrust their reality is part of the fascist playbook currently in use by many of the worlds despotic regimes.

                        There is an article (in German) on Republik at the moment that deals with this very issue.

                        The alt-right benefit from this method much more than left wing groups.

                        The article is subscribers only but the author has co-written a book on the same subject

                        https://www.routledge.com/The-Meme-as-the-Message-Digital-Culture-Between-Algorithm-Affect-and-Aesthetics/Nowotny-Reidy/p/book/9781032981383

                        Link to the article:

                        https://www.republik.ch/2026/04/08/wenn-faelschungen-politik-machen

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                        #143

                        @the_wub Oh yes, and facts about nature/climate are one their (techbro fascists) big targets.

                        @ratiogeraet @CiaraNi

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                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                          @monkee It is a shame when photo images that are lovely in themselves get scraped for reuse and misuse by others. We could just enjoy the lovely originals instead!

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                          #144

                          @CiaraNi The number of scraping bots is meanwhile so immense that you can experience it like Ddos attacks taking your website down.
                          And to protect yourself ... difficult until impossible. We need urgently strong regulations.

                          @monkee

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                            @CiaraNi https://mastodon.social/@Adrenochrome/116437261511916461

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                            #145

                            @FrutigerAero00 That's one of these accounts taking photos from elsewhere ... and many of them are AI-generated!
                            But people follow the slop ...

                            @CiaraNi

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                            • mattmoose@mastodon.worldM mattmoose@mastodon.world

                              @CiaraNi

                              Doesn't this call for some sort of traceable watermarking, or otherwise trustworthy assurance of human originality? While such stupid conditions prevail, for now?

                              The citationless crap that fills social media is readily regurgitated. I'm sure I'm guilty of it too. I just meant well...

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                              #146

                              @MattMoose You needed a global trustworthy, independent watermark which can't be forged. (And the laws and regulations).
                              AI companies fight against exactly this.

                              @CiaraNi

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                              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                @VerenaRupp Agreed, it did look very real, from a technical point of view.

                                Please let me know if I am wrong about it being AI or an otherwise manipulated image. If it really is a real photo of a real water crown on a real bird, I want to correct my toot! (All this uncertainty in itself is part of the whole frustrating problem.)

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                                #147

                                @CiaraNi I bet with you that it's AI. Especially because of physics.

                                @VerenaRupp

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                                • stekopf@mstdn.socialS stekopf@mstdn.social

                                  @FrutigerAero00 @CiaraNi @VerenaRupp

                                  I was also doubting whether it's real or AI (it has to be a quite big droplet for such a solid crown - or maybe it were two?).
                                  I can't confirm the image, but I trust the poster.

                                  So, if this is any good, then it - again - shows how important trust is.

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                                  #148

                                  @stekopf That posting account takes only photos from elsewhere (not their owns), from often not trustful sources in social media ... and many of these photos are AI-generated. (I blocked the account for exactly that).
                                  That "quoted" X-account is one of these "generated" pseudo-nature accounts. I can't see more of X but I'm nearly sure that the whole account works with AI.

                                  @FrutigerAero00 @CiaraNi @VerenaRupp

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                                  • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                    @stekopf That posting account takes only photos from elsewhere (not their owns), from often not trustful sources in social media ... and many of these photos are AI-generated. (I blocked the account for exactly that).
                                    That "quoted" X-account is one of these "generated" pseudo-nature accounts. I can't see more of X but I'm nearly sure that the whole account works with AI.

                                    @FrutigerAero00 @CiaraNi @VerenaRupp

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                                    #149

                                    @NatureMC @stekopf @CiaraNi @VerenaRupp Thats what we need to do in order to stop ai nonsense 👏👏

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                                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                      People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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                                      #150

                                      @CiaraNi Of course, as you know, the threat of AI is much more serious than fake bird photos. In the USA, right-wing groups are using deep fakes of nonexistent persons from various occupations and socioeconomic backgrounds to express support for antisocial politicians and their policies. Some have even called deep fakes a threat to civilization, because they keep us from knowing what is true and what is false. I would go even further and say the internet has facilitated the spread of disinformation and propaganda that harms most people in ways that were less common when we relied on curated news sources. On the whole, I think the internet is harmful.

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                                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                        People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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                                        #151

                                        @CiaraNi

                                        We used to say, "photographs don't lie."
                                        We used to say, "it must be true, it's in the paper."
                                        We used to say, "he wouldn't be deceitful, he's a gentleman."

                                        AI / deep-fakes are just the next generation of disinformation.

                                        Disinformation: the fifth horseman of the apocalypse.

                                        #AI #deepFake #deepFakes #disinformation

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                                        • josephmeyer@c.imJ josephmeyer@c.im

                                          @CiaraNi Of course, as you know, the threat of AI is much more serious than fake bird photos. In the USA, right-wing groups are using deep fakes of nonexistent persons from various occupations and socioeconomic backgrounds to express support for antisocial politicians and their policies. Some have even called deep fakes a threat to civilization, because they keep us from knowing what is true and what is false. I would go even further and say the internet has facilitated the spread of disinformation and propaganda that harms most people in ways that were less common when we relied on curated news sources. On the whole, I think the internet is harmful.

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                                          #152

                                          @JosephMeyer @CiaraNi

                                          Says a man using the Internet to express an opinion to a wider audience than he'd ever have reached on a real soap-box.

                                          Curated news sources have and are also used to spread disinformation: "It must be true, it's in the paper".

                                          Before that it was word-of-mouth. And we burned people at the stake because of lies spread this way.

                                          The medium is not the problem. An education system not worthy of the name is the problem. Truly educated people seek evidence and ask questions.

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