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  • the_wub@mastodon.socialT the_wub@mastodon.social

    @ratiogeraet @CiaraNi It is not just that.

    Making people distrust their reality is part of the fascist playbook currently in use by many of the worlds despotic regimes.

    There is an article (in German) on Republik at the moment that deals with this very issue.

    The alt-right benefit from this method much more than left wing groups.

    The article is subscribers only but the author has co-written a book on the same subject

    https://www.routledge.com/The-Meme-as-the-Message-Digital-Culture-Between-Algorithm-Affect-and-Aesthetics/Nowotny-Reidy/p/book/9781032981383

    Link to the article:

    https://www.republik.ch/2026/04/08/wenn-faelschungen-politik-machen

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    #143

    @the_wub Oh yes, and facts about nature/climate are one their (techbro fascists) big targets.

    @ratiogeraet @CiaraNi

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    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

      @monkee It is a shame when photo images that are lovely in themselves get scraped for reuse and misuse by others. We could just enjoy the lovely originals instead!

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      #144

      @CiaraNi The number of scraping bots is meanwhile so immense that you can experience it like Ddos attacks taking your website down.
      And to protect yourself ... difficult until impossible. We need urgently strong regulations.

      @monkee

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      • F frutigeraero00@mastodon.social

        @CiaraNi https://mastodon.social/@Adrenochrome/116437261511916461

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        #145

        @FrutigerAero00 That's one of these accounts taking photos from elsewhere ... and many of them are AI-generated!
        But people follow the slop ...

        @CiaraNi

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        • mattmoose@mastodon.worldM mattmoose@mastodon.world

          @CiaraNi

          Doesn't this call for some sort of traceable watermarking, or otherwise trustworthy assurance of human originality? While such stupid conditions prevail, for now?

          The citationless crap that fills social media is readily regurgitated. I'm sure I'm guilty of it too. I just meant well...

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          #146

          @MattMoose You needed a global trustworthy, independent watermark which can't be forged. (And the laws and regulations).
          AI companies fight against exactly this.

          @CiaraNi

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          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

            @VerenaRupp Agreed, it did look very real, from a technical point of view.

            Please let me know if I am wrong about it being AI or an otherwise manipulated image. If it really is a real photo of a real water crown on a real bird, I want to correct my toot! (All this uncertainty in itself is part of the whole frustrating problem.)

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            #147

            @CiaraNi I bet with you that it's AI. Especially because of physics.

            @VerenaRupp

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            • stekopf@mstdn.socialS stekopf@mstdn.social

              @FrutigerAero00 @CiaraNi @VerenaRupp

              I was also doubting whether it's real or AI (it has to be a quite big droplet for such a solid crown - or maybe it were two?).
              I can't confirm the image, but I trust the poster.

              So, if this is any good, then it - again - shows how important trust is.

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              #148

              @stekopf That posting account takes only photos from elsewhere (not their owns), from often not trustful sources in social media ... and many of these photos are AI-generated. (I blocked the account for exactly that).
              That "quoted" X-account is one of these "generated" pseudo-nature accounts. I can't see more of X but I'm nearly sure that the whole account works with AI.

              @FrutigerAero00 @CiaraNi @VerenaRupp

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              • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                @stekopf That posting account takes only photos from elsewhere (not their owns), from often not trustful sources in social media ... and many of these photos are AI-generated. (I blocked the account for exactly that).
                That "quoted" X-account is one of these "generated" pseudo-nature accounts. I can't see more of X but I'm nearly sure that the whole account works with AI.

                @FrutigerAero00 @CiaraNi @VerenaRupp

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                #149

                @NatureMC @stekopf @CiaraNi @VerenaRupp Thats what we need to do in order to stop ai nonsense 👏👏

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                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                  People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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                  #150

                  @CiaraNi Of course, as you know, the threat of AI is much more serious than fake bird photos. In the USA, right-wing groups are using deep fakes of nonexistent persons from various occupations and socioeconomic backgrounds to express support for antisocial politicians and their policies. Some have even called deep fakes a threat to civilization, because they keep us from knowing what is true and what is false. I would go even further and say the internet has facilitated the spread of disinformation and propaganda that harms most people in ways that were less common when we relied on curated news sources. On the whole, I think the internet is harmful.

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                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                    People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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                    #151

                    @CiaraNi

                    We used to say, "photographs don't lie."
                    We used to say, "it must be true, it's in the paper."
                    We used to say, "he wouldn't be deceitful, he's a gentleman."

                    AI / deep-fakes are just the next generation of disinformation.

                    Disinformation: the fifth horseman of the apocalypse.

                    #AI #deepFake #deepFakes #disinformation

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                    • josephmeyer@c.imJ josephmeyer@c.im

                      @CiaraNi Of course, as you know, the threat of AI is much more serious than fake bird photos. In the USA, right-wing groups are using deep fakes of nonexistent persons from various occupations and socioeconomic backgrounds to express support for antisocial politicians and their policies. Some have even called deep fakes a threat to civilization, because they keep us from knowing what is true and what is false. I would go even further and say the internet has facilitated the spread of disinformation and propaganda that harms most people in ways that were less common when we relied on curated news sources. On the whole, I think the internet is harmful.

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                      #152

                      @JosephMeyer @CiaraNi

                      Says a man using the Internet to express an opinion to a wider audience than he'd ever have reached on a real soap-box.

                      Curated news sources have and are also used to spread disinformation: "It must be true, it's in the paper".

                      Before that it was word-of-mouth. And we burned people at the stake because of lies spread this way.

                      The medium is not the problem. An education system not worthy of the name is the problem. Truly educated people seek evidence and ask questions.

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                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                        People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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                        #153

                        @CiaraNi Well, I did a little research for you (I don't have the software for a detailed one).
                        I found the image only on social media, only on accounts I doubt.
                        Some name a "photographer Lee Schofer" but I couldn't find any photographer with that name, neither a website of a nature photographer with this name. Seems LLM, too.

                        But I found a *real* photographer/book author, Carl Bovis, showing the trick with AI here: https://x.com/CarlBovisNature/status/2046549710735905168

                        You can find even more robin slop.
                        It's 99,98% #AIslop.

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                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                          @stveje

                          "Worst part is there doesn't seem to be any solution."

                          Agreed. It makes it extra exhausting. There's no end in sight.

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                          #154

                          @CiaraNi
                          Actually there is.

                          AI is a tool like others.

                          Now the AI hype (centered on the USA) is an ugly scam, but luckily it seems to lose a bit steam. Or as I call it the times of free handouts from your drug dealer are coming to an end. Claude code has been dropped from pro, max users suddenly running out of quota. GitHub stopping signups and rumours that they want charge by the token.

                          Three good times where the bullshit machines were free are coming to an end.
                          @stveje

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                          • R rq4c@mastodon.world

                            @JosephMeyer @CiaraNi

                            Says a man using the Internet to express an opinion to a wider audience than he'd ever have reached on a real soap-box.

                            Curated news sources have and are also used to spread disinformation: "It must be true, it's in the paper".

                            Before that it was word-of-mouth. And we burned people at the stake because of lies spread this way.

                            The medium is not the problem. An education system not worthy of the name is the problem. Truly educated people seek evidence and ask questions.

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                            #155

                            @rq4c

                            I often think of leaving the internet altogether, and don’t think I would miss it very much. To your points:

                            Reaching a broader audience on the internet than an ignoramus could on a soapbox is a bad thing when spreading disinformation is the aim. Let’s give Donald Trump a soapbox, instead.

                            I agree that curated sources can contain disinformation. But the internet is more likely to contain disinformation and spreads it more rapidly and farther than a journal article.

                            We burned thousands at the stake when disinformation spread by word of mouth. Now we kill hundreds of thousands or millions with weapons and antisocial ideas that are shared among bad people who find and amplify one another on the internet.

                            I agree with you that a weak educational system, one that teaches poor critical thinking skills, is a big part of the problem. But I think those who spread disinformation love the uneducated and the internet.

                            @CiaraNi

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                            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                              People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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                              #156

                              @CiaraNi AI (including generative AI) is the killer of wonder

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                              • josephmeyer@c.imJ josephmeyer@c.im

                                @rq4c

                                I often think of leaving the internet altogether, and don’t think I would miss it very much. To your points:

                                Reaching a broader audience on the internet than an ignoramus could on a soapbox is a bad thing when spreading disinformation is the aim. Let’s give Donald Trump a soapbox, instead.

                                I agree that curated sources can contain disinformation. But the internet is more likely to contain disinformation and spreads it more rapidly and farther than a journal article.

                                We burned thousands at the stake when disinformation spread by word of mouth. Now we kill hundreds of thousands or millions with weapons and antisocial ideas that are shared among bad people who find and amplify one another on the internet.

                                I agree with you that a weak educational system, one that teaches poor critical thinking skills, is a big part of the problem. But I think those who spread disinformation love the uneducated and the internet.

                                @CiaraNi

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                                #157

                                @JosephMeyer
                                @CiaraNi

                                The Internet has allowed information out where journalists cannot go. It gives a voice to the voiceless. It enables this conversation that would never have happened otherwise.

                                By it's nature of speed/spread/anonymity, it has enabled us to see the true depravity of humanity — which was always there. You cannot confront what you cannot see.

                                I reject your likelihood assertion: the right-wing press is pure propaganda.

                                Banning knives is great, til you have a burst appendix.

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                                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                  A few people have questioned whether I am right to say that the image of a drop of water bursting on a bird's head like a crown actually is AI-generated. They think I may be wrong. That it is not faked. That it is real.

                                  If I'm wrong, if it really is an unmanipulated photo by a verified human photographer, please do let me know so that I can correct myself and my toot.

                                  (All this uncertainty is part of the whole problem. We all spend so much human time & energy trying to act in good faith.)

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                                  #158

                                  @CiaraNi I fell for AI images several times and it has brought me to a place where I question everything that isn't from one of the photographers I know. I hate all of this.

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                                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                    People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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                                    #159

                                    @CiaraNi As a photographer who has experimented with water drop photography, I instantly knew that image was AI. I was surprised it was being passed off as a real image, although in this day and age I probably shouldn't have been.

                                    It is not possible to do water drop photography casually, as shutter speed alone even on a really high end camera is not enough to freeze the action. It requires the use of a strobe flash in a darkened room to stop the drops.

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                                    • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                      @CiaraNi The number of scraping bots is meanwhile so immense that you can experience it like Ddos attacks taking your website down.
                                      And to protect yourself ... difficult until impossible. We need urgently strong regulations.

                                      @monkee

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                                      #160

                                      @NatureMC @CiaraNi @monkee I am retiring from my business as a web designer because I'm tired dealing with the fall out from AI scapers and hackers. What used to be a fun creative job has turned into being a security analyst. Not what I want to be doing.

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                                      • yacc143@mastodon.socialY yacc143@mastodon.social

                                        @CiaraNi
                                        Actually there is.

                                        AI is a tool like others.

                                        Now the AI hype (centered on the USA) is an ugly scam, but luckily it seems to lose a bit steam. Or as I call it the times of free handouts from your drug dealer are coming to an end. Claude code has been dropped from pro, max users suddenly running out of quota. GitHub stopping signups and rumours that they want charge by the token.

                                        Three good times where the bullshit machines were free are coming to an end.
                                        @stveje

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                                        #161

                                        @yacc143 @CiaraNi Alas, just because something is no longer free doesn't mean people won't use it, especially people with more money than good sense/scruples. Or that the technology itself just goes away. And all the slop that's already been generated will continue floating around, getting into everything like digital micro plastic and forever chemicals.

                                        Even if the bubble pops tomorrow, we haven't seen the end of this. Not even close.

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                                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                          A few people have questioned whether I am right to say that the image of a drop of water bursting on a bird's head like a crown actually is AI-generated. They think I may be wrong. That it is not faked. That it is real.

                                          If I'm wrong, if it really is an unmanipulated photo by a verified human photographer, please do let me know so that I can correct myself and my toot.

                                          (All this uncertainty is part of the whole problem. We all spend so much human time & energy trying to act in good faith.)

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                                          #162

                                          @CiaraNi I think the people boosting the post are acting in good faith... the poster however doubled down when called out

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