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  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

    People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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    #61

    @CiaraNi

    Doesn't this call for some sort of traceable watermarking, or otherwise trustworthy assurance of human originality? While such stupid conditions prevail, for now?

    The citationless crap that fills social media is readily regurgitated. I'm sure I'm guilty of it too. I just meant well...

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    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

      @stekopf @VerenaRupp Everything points to it being AI (there are plausible reasons in the photo's thread and in this one.) I don't know how I can prove technically that it is not an AI image. A verified source for the actual photographer and original photo would prove it but nobody seems to have found one.

      How do we prove something is or isn't AI in the absence of an original source?

      Edit to add: I was sure. Until people started questioning me. Which made me unsure. This is the whole AI mess.

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      frutigeraero00@mastodon.social
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      #62

      @CiaraNi @stekopf @VerenaRupp https://mastodon.social/@Adrenochrome/116437261511916461

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      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

        People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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        frutigeraero00@mastodon.social
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        #63

        @CiaraNi https://mastodon.social/@Adrenochrome/116437261511916461

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        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

          A few people have questioned whether I am right to say that the image of a drop of water bursting on a bird's head like a crown actually is AI-generated. They think I may be wrong. That it is not faked. That it is real.

          If I'm wrong, if it really is an unmanipulated photo by a verified human photographer, please do let me know so that I can correct myself and my toot.

          (All this uncertainty is part of the whole problem. We all spend so much human time & energy trying to act in good faith.)

          stveje@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #64

          RE: https://eldritch.cafe/@lynatic/116439531277946968

          @CiaraNi It is apparently watermarked by the AI that generated it (though I haven't checked this myself). I'd consider that pretty strong proof, since I can't imagine why anyone would add an AI watermark to a real, non-AI picture (but then again, people do lots of things I can't imagine people doing)

          https://mstdn.social/@lynatic@eldritch.cafe/116439531501647616

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          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

            People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

            monkee@other.liM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #65

            @CiaraNi@mastodon.green Even sader - The AI STOLE the Bird and the Droplet Picture from a real human to make this new fake one. ​​

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            • mattmoose@mastodon.worldM mattmoose@mastodon.world

              @CiaraNi

              Doesn't this call for some sort of traceable watermarking, or otherwise trustworthy assurance of human originality? While such stupid conditions prevail, for now?

              The citationless crap that fills social media is readily regurgitated. I'm sure I'm guilty of it too. I just meant well...

              ciarani@mastodon.greenC This user is from outside of this forum
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              ciarani@mastodon.green
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              #66

              @MattMoose Agreed. A verified symbol of authenticity would be nice at this point. Like for organic fruit or vegan produce or allergy-free products or whatever. The whole uncertainty is awful. We get tricked, which makes us suspicious. We get it wrong in either direction, no doubt - thinking AI is real, thinking real images are fake.

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              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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                gaznjax@social.vivaldi.net
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                #67

                @CiaraNi

                Fake news and AI Fakery is all part of a deliberate strategy.........if we loose the ability to work out what's real then those with power can get away with murder.

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                • stveje@mstdn.socialS stveje@mstdn.social

                  RE: https://eldritch.cafe/@lynatic/116439531277946968

                  @CiaraNi It is apparently watermarked by the AI that generated it (though I haven't checked this myself). I'd consider that pretty strong proof, since I can't imagine why anyone would add an AI watermark to a real, non-AI picture (but then again, people do lots of things I can't imagine people doing)

                  https://mstdn.social/@lynatic@eldritch.cafe/116439531501647616

                  ciarani@mastodon.greenC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #68

                  @stveje Oh, so there is an actual AI-watermark. What a vicious circle all of this runs in. And such a terrible waste of all our human time and energy. I'd prefer to look at those real, non-AI pictures too!

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                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                    People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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                    billyjoebowers@mastodon.online
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #69

                    @CiaraNi

                    Breaking social trust is the point of AI.
                    That's why they're investing billions.

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                    • monkee@other.liM monkee@other.li

                      @CiaraNi@mastodon.green Even sader - The AI STOLE the Bird and the Droplet Picture from a real human to make this new fake one. ​​

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                      ciarani@mastodon.green
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                      #70

                      @monkee It is a shame when photo images that are lovely in themselves get scraped for reuse and misuse by others. We could just enjoy the lovely originals instead!

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                      • billyjoebowers@mastodon.onlineB billyjoebowers@mastodon.online

                        @CiaraNi

                        Breaking social trust is the point of AI.
                        That's why they're investing billions.

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                        ciarani@mastodon.green
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                        #71

                        @billyjoebowers Yes, I know

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                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                          @stveje Oh, so there is an actual AI-watermark. What a vicious circle all of this runs in. And such a terrible waste of all our human time and energy. I'd prefer to look at those real, non-AI pictures too!

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                          stveje@mstdn.social
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                          #72

                          @CiaraNi It's so depressing. Worst part is there doesn't seem to be any solution.

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                          • stveje@mstdn.socialS stveje@mstdn.social

                            @CiaraNi It's so depressing. Worst part is there doesn't seem to be any solution.

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                            ciarani@mastodon.green
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                            #73

                            @stveje

                            "Worst part is there doesn't seem to be any solution."

                            Agreed. It makes it extra exhausting. There's no end in sight.

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                            • ratiogeraet@masto.aiR ratiogeraet@masto.ai

                              @CiaraNi It takes the joy out of watching interesting pictures and cute dog videos for me. Just one more reason why AI sucks.

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                              the_wub@mastodon.social
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                              #74

                              @ratiogeraet @CiaraNi It is not just that.

                              Making people distrust their reality is part of the fascist playbook currently in use by many of the worlds despotic regimes.

                              There is an article (in German) on Republik at the moment that deals with this very issue.

                              The alt-right benefit from this method much more than left wing groups.

                              The article is subscribers only but the author has co-written a book on the same subject

                              https://www.routledge.com/The-Meme-as-the-Message-Digital-Culture-Between-Algorithm-Affect-and-Aesthetics/Nowotny-Reidy/p/book/9781032981383

                              Link to the article:

                              https://www.republik.ch/2026/04/08/wenn-faelschungen-politik-machen

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                              • F frutigeraero00@mastodon.social

                                @CiaraNi https://mastodon.social/@Adrenochrome/116437261511916461

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                                frutigeraero00@mastodon.social
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                                #75

                                @CiaraNi My father when he saw the image, an intellectual: waterdrops don't create that shape on a concave surface, only when its flat.

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                                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                  @stveje

                                  "Worst part is there doesn't seem to be any solution."

                                  Agreed. It makes it extra exhausting. There's no end in sight.

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                                  fgraver@hcommons.social
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                                  #76

                                  @CiaraNi @stveje Oh, good grief. I thought it was real and am both disappointed in myself for not being more attuned to the telltale signs you pointed out and angry at the original poster who obviously intended this to deceive.

                                  This is why we can’t have nice things.

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                                  • F frutigeraero00@mastodon.social

                                    @CiaraNi My father when he saw the image, an intellectual: waterdrops don't create that shape on a concave surface, only when its flat.

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                                    ciarani@mastodon.green
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                                    #77

                                    @FrutigerAero00 There seems to be consensus that a water droplet only makes that shape when hitting a flat body of water.

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                                    • F frutigeraero00@mastodon.social

                                      @CiaraNi My father when he saw the image, an intellectual: waterdrops don't create that shape on a concave surface, only when its flat.

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                                      frutigeraero00@mastodon.social
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                                      #78

                                      @CiaraNi Still, i know this ai issue could bring a pessimistic approach, but I think, on the other side, this issue will connect humans even more, here's why:

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                                      • the_wub@mastodon.socialT the_wub@mastodon.social

                                        @ratiogeraet @CiaraNi It is not just that.

                                        Making people distrust their reality is part of the fascist playbook currently in use by many of the worlds despotic regimes.

                                        There is an article (in German) on Republik at the moment that deals with this very issue.

                                        The alt-right benefit from this method much more than left wing groups.

                                        The article is subscribers only but the author has co-written a book on the same subject

                                        https://www.routledge.com/The-Meme-as-the-Message-Digital-Culture-Between-Algorithm-Affect-and-Aesthetics/Nowotny-Reidy/p/book/9781032981383

                                        Link to the article:

                                        https://www.republik.ch/2026/04/08/wenn-faelschungen-politik-machen

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                                        ciarani@mastodon.green
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                                        #79

                                        @the_wub @ratiogeraet Yes, it's a known strategy

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                                        • F frutigeraero00@mastodon.social

                                          @CiaraNi Still, i know this ai issue could bring a pessimistic approach, but I think, on the other side, this issue will connect humans even more, here's why:

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                                          frutigeraero00@mastodon.social
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                                          #80

                                          @CiaraNi We humans wants the truth, and we hate ai, and what we are doing here together is whats keeps humanity alive: searching for clues if its ai or not, looking for the real author, sharing opinions, talking! This is incredible, seeing all of us cooperate to unmask ai!

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