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  • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

    Do we need to have a CEO of Wikipedia? Can we maybe just not?

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    @liaizon no gods no masters no ceos

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    • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

      Do we need to have a CEO of Wikipedia? Can we maybe just not?

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      #8

      @liaizon There is no CEO of Wikipedia.

      nemobis@mamot.frN liaizon@social.wake.stL ahltorp@mastodon.nuA 3 Replies Last reply
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      • nemobis@mamot.frN nemobis@mamot.fr

        @liaizon There is no CEO of Wikipedia.

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        #9

        @liaizon Oh dear, I thought we had this discussion just a short while ago. Turns out it was 2010.
        https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/FIKY6K6QKTT64PCRVSGGKLTRUFPUTC7B/

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        • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

          Decentralize Wikipedia now! socially, economically and technicality

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          #10

          @liaizon I was a bit surprised when I learned that Wikimedia foundation isn't a cooperative that is governed by it's members and everyone in the upper positions is essentially voted in. But it's not yeah

          Which is why I had a very confused "huh?" When I heard about a Wikipedia union being formed one of two months ago

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          • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

            The last CEO of Wikimedia Foundation was ex Mckinsey, the current CEO was a senior advisor at the US National Security Council. Can we maybe stop having these sorts of people in charge of our commons?

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            #11

            @liaizon the next one will be a Palantir exec, followed by a Kissinger-head-in-a-jar

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            • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

              The last CEO of Wikimedia Foundation was ex Mckinsey, the current CEO was a senior advisor at the US National Security Council. Can we maybe stop having these sorts of people in charge of our commons?

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              @liaizon istg wmf management is so fucking out of touch. why do they keep hiring these office drones???
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              • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                Decentralize Wikipedia now! socially, economically and technicality

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                #13

                💯 btw - There's federated wiki software. https://ibis.wiki

                And would it be possible to set up Wikipedia copies per year for instance 2025 and 2026 and 2002 and so on so the public can create a more compact version ?

                We could have much smaller Wikipedia content forks for example per country.

                I'm having this in mind as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence_in_Wikimedia_projects#Generative_AI_and_LLMs

                #wikipedia #ai #noai #federated #fediverse

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                • nemobis@mamot.frN nemobis@mamot.fr

                  @liaizon There is no CEO of Wikipedia.

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                  #14

                  @nemobis you know what I mean. If the CEO of Wikimedia is the one responding to the firing of people who are working on the software that makes Wikipedia run the fact that it's technically a different entity is moot.

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                  • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                    The last CEO of Wikimedia Foundation was ex Mckinsey, the current CEO was a senior advisor at the US National Security Council. Can we maybe stop having these sorts of people in charge of our commons?

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                    #15

                    @liaizon

                    "can we . ." no, not when there is that much money involved

                    The foundation has revenue of . .gasp .. 180 million US dollars, give or take

                    https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/200049703

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                    • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                      The last CEO of Wikimedia Foundation was ex Mckinsey, the current CEO was a senior advisor at the US National Security Council. Can we maybe stop having these sorts of people in charge of our commons?

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                      #16

                      @liaizon
                      "senior . ." seems like McCarthyism

                      The US NSC is a large place, with some divergent views, and "advisor" can mean a lot of things

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                      • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

                        @liaizon
                        "senior . ." seems like McCarthyism

                        The US NSC is a large place, with some divergent views, and "advisor" can mean a lot of things

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                        #17

                        @failedLyndonLaRouchite copied the line from her Wikipedia page exactly. So take it up there if you think that's incorrect

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                        • demha@comp.lain.laD demha@comp.lain.la
                          @liaizon isnt that the internet?
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                          #18

                          @demha no

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                          • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                            @failedLyndonLaRouchite copied the line from her Wikipedia page exactly. So take it up there if you think that's incorrect

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                            @liaizon so you take no responsibilty for what you post ?

                            sure, ok, that is fine, this is social media

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                            • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                              @demha no

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                              #20
                              @liaizon whatd an decentralised wikipedia be like?
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                              • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

                                @liaizon so you take no responsibilty for what you post ?

                                sure, ok, that is fine, this is social media

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                                #21

                                @failedLyndonLaRouchite what are you talking about? If you think she wasn't a senior advisor you need at least give some evidence of that

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                                • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                                  @failedLyndonLaRouchite what are you talking about? If you think she wasn't a senior advisor you need at least give some evidence of that

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                                  #22

                                  @liaizon

                                  sorry, no not disputing that she was a SA

                                  disputing what "senior advisor" means cause as I read this, "senior advisor" means she is some sort of bad person not to be trusted (roughly speaking)

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                                  • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

                                    @liaizon

                                    sorry, no not disputing that she was a SA

                                    disputing what "senior advisor" means cause as I read this, "senior advisor" means she is some sort of bad person not to be trusted (roughly speaking)

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                                    #23

                                    @failedLyndonLaRouchite I think anyone who gets involved in the US National Security aparatus is already a spesific type of person. You don't just find yourself there. That's not to say they are "bad" or "good" but it already pinpoints the area of focus your life has taken.

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                                    • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                                      Can we build the worlds knowledge base without rulers?

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                                      #24

                                      @liaizon Your post came across my feed alone, and before I clicked through, my first thought was

                                      "But .. isn't accurate measurement kind of important? And straight lines? I still use a ruler even though it's been years since grade school."

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                                      • nemobis@mamot.frN nemobis@mamot.fr

                                        @liaizon There is no CEO of Wikipedia.

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                                        #25

                                        @nemobis @liaizon If Wikipedia is not part of Wikimedia foundation, why is Wikipedia periodically running really intrusive ads that are persuading people to donate to that foundation, while saying that they aren’t running ads?

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                                        • ahltorp@mastodon.nuA ahltorp@mastodon.nu

                                          @nemobis @liaizon If Wikipedia is not part of Wikimedia foundation, why is Wikipedia periodically running really intrusive ads that are persuading people to donate to that foundation, while saying that they aren’t running ads?

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                                          #26

                                          @nemobis @liaizon And why does every Wikipedia page say "A Wikimedia project", a link to a page that says "All major projects are operated by the Wikimedia Foundation", if Wikipedia is not operated by the Wikimedia Foundation?

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