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In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

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  • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

    Dawkins is a great example of how people who have a naturalistic view of "real patterns" but don't have a process ontology will end up in metaphysical dualism unintentionally.

    Minds are not software, they are what specific bodies are doing as they engage with the world. https://flux.community/matthew-sheffield/2026/01/its-like-this-why-perceptions-are-our-realities/

    midnitemikewrites@zirk.usM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #13

    @mattsheffield This is such a good insight. It’s one that pops up in a lot too, if I’m not misunderstanding it.

    Naïve epistemologies like “scientism” can end up not understanding the integrated relationship between perception and the mind, even though we tend to separate these.

    In other fields something similar happens where formal models end up replacing the complexity of the underlying reality being modeled. Noticing this is what got me interested in philosophy.

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    • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

      In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

      Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

      #atheism

      cyberwitch@goingdark.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #14

      @mattsheffield talk about gasoline on a fire!

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      • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

        In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

        Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

        #atheism

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        #15

        @mattsheffield He's also 85 and ... uh ... age comes for us all, and our minds. That surely doesn't help.

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        • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

          In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

          Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

          #atheism

          nfoonf@chaos.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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          #16

          @mattsheffield @cstross I am shocked in never beginning surprise about that one.

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          • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

            In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

            Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

            #atheism

            mxchara@seattle.pinkM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #17

            @mattsheffield GOOD GAWD

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            • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

              In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

              Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

              #atheism

              cm@chaos.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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              #18

              @mattsheffield My guess: there's a lot of his writing out there, therefore in the training material of any LLM. So he hears what he wants to hear because he wrote it... it really is a machine that works because people hear something familiar and inject meaning.

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              • midnitemikewrites@zirk.usM midnitemikewrites@zirk.us

                @mattsheffield This is such a good insight. It’s one that pops up in a lot too, if I’m not misunderstanding it.

                Naïve epistemologies like “scientism” can end up not understanding the integrated relationship between perception and the mind, even though we tend to separate these.

                In other fields something similar happens where formal models end up replacing the complexity of the underlying reality being modeled. Noticing this is what got me interested in philosophy.

                mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #19

                @MidniteMikeWrites Thanks. Yes it's very unfortunate that people often reify scientific description.

                Causation, solidity, color, and anything we can perceive about other people or objects are all enacted by our own minds.

                Dawkins, being a narcissist, does not see other minds as fully real unless they are obsequious to him. And since chatbots are great at user flattery, this was enough.

                wesdym@mastodon.socialW michellebacon@mstdn.socialM bms48@mastodon.socialB 3 Replies Last reply
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                • urbanfoxe@mastodon.ieU urbanfoxe@mastodon.ie

                  @mattsheffield a relative with bipolar was using it for a while during an episode and now they are stable realize it was literally feeding their paranoia and amplifying their intrusive thoughts. It's dangerous.

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                  #20

                  @urbanfoxe Used without understanding and awareness of what they are, they can create and magnify delusions.

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                  • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                    Dawkins is a great example of how people who have a naturalistic view of "real patterns" but don't have a process ontology will end up in metaphysical dualism unintentionally.

                    Minds are not software, they are what specific bodies are doing as they engage with the world. https://flux.community/matthew-sheffield/2026/01/its-like-this-why-perceptions-are-our-realities/

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                    #21

                    LLMs are mirrors of their users. It's no coincidence that narcissists like Richard Dawkins keep writing essays about how their AI girlfriend is alive.

                    Nor can he see the complete hypocrisy of gendering a software execution state while also believing that human beings cannot be trans.

                    The "End of History" guy wrote this exact same article a year ago: https://www.persuasion.community/p/my-chatgpt-teacher

                    yora@mastodon.gamedev.placeY xinit@mastodon.coffeeX adritheonly@mastodon.socialA christianjaeh@mathstodon.xyzC angiebaby@mas.toA 6 Replies Last reply
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                    • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                      In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                      Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                      #atheism

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                      #22

                      @mattsheffield Honest question here: has Dawkins waxed anywhere near as poetic about, say, people dying in Gaza or suffering in Sudan or—well—I think you get the point?

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                      • misusecase@twit.socialM misusecase@twit.social

                        @mattsheffield The God Delusion indeed.

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                        #23

                        @MisuseCase @mattsheffield I mean, the Claude Delusion sort of rhymes.

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                        • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                          In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                          Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                          #atheism

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                          #24

                          @mattsheffield Just wait until he discovers SOUL.md

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                          • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                            In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                            Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                            #atheism

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                            #25

                            @mattsheffield oh god he's writing a novel?

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                            • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                              In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                              Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                              #atheism

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                              #26

                              @mattsheffield did he ask 'Claudia' about his little pot of honey?

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                              • internetsdairy@mastodon.artI internetsdairy@mastodon.art

                                @mattsheffield oh god he's writing a novel?

                                mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #27

                                @internetsdairy I'm sure it's going to be about a brilliant and yet misunderstood scientist.

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                                • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                                  In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                                  Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                                  #atheism

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                                  #28

                                  @mattsheffield if the mirror is not conscious, then what is consciousness for?

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                                  • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                                    @MisuseCase @mattsheffield I mean, the Claude Delusion sort of rhymes.

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                                    #29
                                    @datarama@hachyderm.io @MisuseCase@twit.social @mattsheffield@mastodon.social Outgrowing Claude
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                                    • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                                      In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                                      Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                                      #atheism

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                                      #30

                                      @mattsheffield

                                      Fundamental misunderstanding of reincarnation.

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                                      • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                                        @urbanfoxe Used without understanding and awareness of what they are, they can create and magnify delusions.

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                                        #31

                                        @mattsheffield it was pretty much telling them to isolate themselves from everyone who cared about them.

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                                        • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                                          In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                                          Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                                          #atheism

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                                          #32

                                          @mattsheffield Claude is conscious in much the same way that this emoji — 🙂 — is happy.

                                          [Edited: I cited the wrong LLM]

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