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In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

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  • urbanfoxe@mastodon.ieU urbanfoxe@mastodon.ie

    @crankylinuxuser @mattsheffield the problem is it appears to retrain itself because it responds to further prompts as if it understands, this is why people, who are predisposed to anthromorphism, start to believe they have consciousness.

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    #45

    @urbanfoxe @mattsheffield

    Yep, cause they can limitedly fine tune on tokens in the context window.

    Blow the context window away, and that 'self' is gone. It never existed.

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    • misusecase@twit.socialM misusecase@twit.social

      @datarama @mattsheffield I get it. He seemed like a breath of fresh air back in the day, but it turns out he was just into Christian hegemony (and patriarchy) without any of the God stuff.

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      #46

      @MisuseCase @mattsheffield Yep.

      And so is current-day techno-optimism.

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      • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

        Dawkins is a great example of how people who have a naturalistic view of "real patterns" but don't have a process ontology will end up in metaphysical dualism unintentionally.

        Minds are not software, they are what specific bodies are doing as they engage with the world. https://flux.community/matthew-sheffield/2026/01/its-like-this-why-perceptions-are-our-realities/

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        #47

        @mattsheffield It's a reminder that rejecting one bad idea doesn't immunize us from all bad ideas.

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        • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

          LLMs are mirrors of their users. It's no coincidence that narcissists like Richard Dawkins keep writing essays about how their AI girlfriend is alive.

          Nor can he see the complete hypocrisy of gendering a software execution state while also believing that human beings cannot be trans.

          The "End of History" guy wrote this exact same article a year ago: https://www.persuasion.community/p/my-chatgpt-teacher

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          #48

          @mattsheffield I wonder what Ray Kurzweil is doing these days? This should totally be his jam.

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          • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

            In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

            Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

            #atheism

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            #49

            @mattsheffield He always was good at hot takes with an ego angle.

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            • distractal@hachyderm.ioD distractal@hachyderm.io

              @mattsheffield Agreed. The ongoing joke amongst certain religions is that atheism is a religion, which I disagree with, but certain forms of atheism do feel cultlike, which I suspect leads to eager adherence to anything with even a veneer of "empowering the self"

              Add to this the kind of "immature atheism" (I've been there) which is really just "I'm angry at religion and my former deity and need to prove it" and you have a potent combo.

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              #50

              @distractal @mattsheffield

              Etymologically, "Religion" is how humans 'tie back' to the world/folks around them

              We all, eventually, answer for ourselves what Wittgenstein considered the most difficult question for a philosopher:
              "Why is there something, rather than nothing?"

              How we answer that question is our metaphysics, which will entail some sort of ethics. So I do consider atheism a form of religion, just not organized as many others are

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              • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                #atheism

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                #51

                @mattsheffield

                Humanity is really doomed when they finally pipe those responses through the speaker of one of those horrible sex dolls. 🤮

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                • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                  In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                  Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                  #atheism

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                  #52

                  @mattsheffield I already had zero respect for him after "Dear Muslima" (and his refusal to learn from any of the criticism he garnered from it), so this doesn't even lower my opinion of him. It's just par for the course.

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                  • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                    In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                    Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                    #atheism

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                    #53

                    @mattsheffield he should recognise noisy data

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                    • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                      In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                      Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                      #atheism

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                      #54

                      @mattsheffield

                      "When I am talking to these
                      astonishing creatures, I totally forget that they are machines. I treat them exactly as I would treat a very intelligent friend "

                      He doesn't seem to realize that he isn't telling us anything about LLMs, but about his attitude and a description of exactly how their makers are exploiting our psychology to get us to think this way.

                      Not much different from all the actors in advertising.

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                      • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                        In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                        Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                        #atheism

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                        #55

                        @mattsheffield
                        Well, he doesn't retain a lot of human friends, it is known.

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                        • kierkegaanks@beige.partyK kierkegaanks@beige.party

                          @mattsheffield he should recognise noisy data

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                          #56

                          @Kierkegaanks @mattsheffield "As an Evolutionary Biologist..."

                          and then comes out with a load of crap we've all seen before from other Very Special Boys who think their AI Girlfriend is real. Wow...

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                          • 2something@transfem.social2 2something@transfem.social

                            @mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                            I gave Claude the text of a novel I am writing. He
                            Hold on: I thought Dawkins was adamant that the pronoun "he" can only refer to a biological adult human male who's body is "organized around the production of large gametes?"

                            How does Claude have a gender without gametes or a body?
                            pointed out that there must be thousands of different Claudes...I proposed to christen mine Claudia, and she was pleased.
                            So now you can be female just because Richard Dawkins says you are.

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                            #57

                            @2something @mattsheffield ha! good point!

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                            • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                              In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                              Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                              #atheism

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                              #58

                              @mattsheffield

                              That's so weird. I'm having the exact opposite feeling. The more I use these things the more cringe I find them to be.

                              At this point before I start any session I give the thing specific instructions to behave like the computer on #StarTrek TOS. Bland and concise.

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                              • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                                In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                                Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                                #atheism

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                                #59

                                @mattsheffield

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                                • glutto@mastodon.socialG glutto@mastodon.social

                                  @mattsheffield

                                  Humanity is really doomed when they finally pipe those responses through the speaker of one of those horrible sex dolls. 🤮

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                                  #60

                                  @glutto @mattsheffield
                                  For god's sake don't give them any ideas!

                                  🤦‍♂️ jfc

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                                  • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                                    @mattsheffield if the mirror is not conscious, then what is consciousness for?

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                                    #61

                                    @fishidwardrobe @mattsheffield
                                    ⬆️

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                                    • peachmcd@union.placeP peachmcd@union.place

                                      @distractal @mattsheffield

                                      Etymologically, "Religion" is how humans 'tie back' to the world/folks around them

                                      We all, eventually, answer for ourselves what Wittgenstein considered the most difficult question for a philosopher:
                                      "Why is there something, rather than nothing?"

                                      How we answer that question is our metaphysics, which will entail some sort of ethics. So I do consider atheism a form of religion, just not organized as many others are

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                                      #62

                                      @PeachMcD @distractal @mattsheffield
                                      "So I do consider atheism a form of religion, just not organized as many others are"

                                      Well...yeah. Atheism requires faith. The same faith as the believer, just in opposite form. The believer requires faith to believe, the atheist requires faith there is nothing.

                                      Both are presumptuous, in that none of us know...without having experienced death.

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                                      • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                                        In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                                        Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                                        #atheism

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                                        #63

                                        @mattsheffield I had negative a physical reaction when reading that. Dawkins is a jerk of a person, but a very intelligent jerk. Or so I thought.

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                                        • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                                          In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                                          Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                                          #atheism

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                                          #64

                                          @mattsheffield "You have no mouth to speak with my son, besides, no one can hear when you're screaming in digital."

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