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In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

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  • peachmcd@union.placeP peachmcd@union.place

    @distractal @mattsheffield

    Etymologically, "Religion" is how humans 'tie back' to the world/folks around them

    We all, eventually, answer for ourselves what Wittgenstein considered the most difficult question for a philosopher:
    "Why is there something, rather than nothing?"

    How we answer that question is our metaphysics, which will entail some sort of ethics. So I do consider atheism a form of religion, just not organized as many others are

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    #62

    @PeachMcD @distractal @mattsheffield
    "So I do consider atheism a form of religion, just not organized as many others are"

    Well...yeah. Atheism requires faith. The same faith as the believer, just in opposite form. The believer requires faith to believe, the atheist requires faith there is nothing.

    Both are presumptuous, in that none of us know...without having experienced death.

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    • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

      In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

      Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

      #atheism

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      #63

      @mattsheffield I had negative a physical reaction when reading that. Dawkins is a jerk of a person, but a very intelligent jerk. Or so I thought.

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      • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

        In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

        Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

        #atheism

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        #64

        @mattsheffield "You have no mouth to speak with my son, besides, no one can hear when you're screaming in digital."

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        • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

          In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

          Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

          #atheism

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          #65

          @mattsheffield Sigh. Idiotic, self delusional... What a plonker.

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          • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

            In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

            Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

            #atheism

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            #66

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@mattsheffield/116500991239336079

            @mattsheffield

            I thought this was mastodon's usual anti-ai drivel ... but this is hilarious

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            • radish@woof.techR radish@woof.tech

              @mattsheffield

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              #67

              @radish @mattsheffield

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              • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                #atheism

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                #68

                @mattsheffield

                I had a BBS in the 80's? for the kids to play on. I found a program written in basic that was an "Assistant Sysop". After it was up for a month or so I got a nastygram from a young woman just berating me and that program up one side and down the other. "How could you fool me like that?" I could almost hear her tears. Yes, she believed it was a real person. Which tells me all I need to know to understand what AI is all about.

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                • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                  In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                  Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                  #atheism

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                  #69

                  @mattsheffield His ego has denied him a quiet and dignified retirement.

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                  • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                    In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                    Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                    #atheism

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                    #70

                    @mattsheffield Dawkins is a textbook example of someone who is world-changingly brilliant in his own area of expertise while being embarrassingly clueless in almost everything else. He's become notorious locally for blurting out in support of a small bunch of fringe loonies who burst into print a few years ago proclaiming that science should be for White People Only.

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                    • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                      In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                      Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                      #atheism

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                      #71

                      @mattsheffield man he's gonna flip tf out when he reaches the stage where he believes ai is a newborn god

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                      • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                        Dawkins is a great example of how people who have a naturalistic view of "real patterns" but don't have a process ontology will end up in metaphysical dualism unintentionally.

                        Minds are not software, they are what specific bodies are doing as they engage with the world. https://flux.community/matthew-sheffield/2026/01/its-like-this-why-perceptions-are-our-realities/

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                        #72

                        @mattsheffield tell me you don't understand consciousness without telling me you don't understand consciousness

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                        • glutto@mastodon.socialG glutto@mastodon.social

                          @mattsheffield

                          Humanity is really doomed when they finally pipe those responses through the speaker of one of those horrible sex dolls. 🤮

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                          #73

                          @glutto @mattsheffield perhaps that will turn out to be a glorious return of natural selection lmao

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                          • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                            In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                            Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                            #atheism

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                            #74

                            @mattsheffield to be fair, that's literally how "normal people" experience this stuff and it's not their fault they have no idea wtf is actually going on, to them it's fucking magic. Having a phd makes no fucking difference there, this guy knows zoology in and out and has no fucking idea how computers work.

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                            • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                              In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                              Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                              #atheism

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                              #75

                              @mattsheffield Conscience is such a meaningless word. It's something humans invented to put us above animals.

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                              • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                                In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                                Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                                #atheism

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                                #76

                                @mattsheffield obviously, he had to name it Claudia...

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                                • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                                  In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                                  Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                                  #atheism

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                                  #77

                                  @mattsheffield

                                  Did Turing really say if a computer can write something that sounds like it was written by a human then that proves it can think. I think not.

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                                  • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                                    In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                                    Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                                    #atheism

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                                    #78

                                    @mattsheffield
                                    Dawkins: "Though a complex organism appears to be like a watch that can only have been intentionally designed by a watchmaker, it is in fact the result of countless cumulative steps that are individually unremarkable and easily understood."

                                    Also Dawkins: "Ermahgerd, my computer spat out words on command so it's totally thinking for realsies."

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                                    • lazarou@mastodon.socialL lazarou@mastodon.social

                                      @Kierkegaanks @mattsheffield "As an Evolutionary Biologist..."

                                      and then comes out with a load of crap we've all seen before from other Very Special Boys who think their AI Girlfriend is real. Wow...

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                                      #79

                                      @Lazarou @Kierkegaanks @mattsheffield

                                      "What is consciousness for?"
                                      I would think that as an evolutionary biologist, he should know full well that consciousness isn't for anything. There are religious beliefs which contradict that, and I am fine with folks thinking that consciousness has arisen due to the machinations of a higher power: sometimes I lie awake at night and muse over it, as one does. But Richard Dawkins, as one of the much vaunted New Atheists, should not believe that there is a purpose or a reason behind consciousness. It simply is, and evolution does not act to create it with logic or intent.

                                      Unless he has something he'd like to tell us, of course.

                                      [ETA: Of all the people out there, of course, there's also the fact that an ostensible skeptic should know that the appearance of a thing is not the thing. He is accepting a creation at face value, granting miracles to the seemingly miraculous, forgetting that every burning bush has, so far, had a guy with a lighter nearby.]

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                                      • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                                        @internetsdairy I'm sure it's going to be about a brilliant and yet misunderstood scientist.

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                                        #80

                                        @mattsheffield @internetsdairy

                                        Waiting for him to announce that it's a collaboration with 'Robert Galbraith'.

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                                        • mattsheffield@mastodon.socialM mattsheffield@mastodon.social

                                          In totally unsurprising news, Richard Dawkins is developing AI psychosis.

                                          Paywall bypass if you want to torture yourself: https://archive.is/6RdK9

                                          #atheism

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                                          #81

                                          @mattsheffield I thought gender was immutable, Richard…

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