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  3. No, OpenAI's new magic models did not autonomously hack Huggingface.

No, OpenAI's new magic models did not autonomously hack Huggingface.

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  • mond@mas.toM mond@mas.to

    @cm @tante

    To me it rather seems that the AI-denial is a cult..

    Bergman:

    https://youtu.be/KpTZbq-eV38?is=yIA9reuuiFsgwaRO

    And with the "humiliations argument" we now have an explanation for it:

    https://qummunismus.at/a/article200/

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    @mond @cm Bregman is so AI pilled that he lets Claude write these essays for him (otherwise they'd probably be less unstructured and have actual arguments). I'd pick a better posterboy for the pro AI position 😉

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    • mond@mas.toM mond@mas.to

      @cm @tante

      To me it rather seems that the AI-denial is a cult..

      Bergman:

      https://youtu.be/KpTZbq-eV38?is=yIA9reuuiFsgwaRO

      And with the "humiliations argument" we now have an explanation for it:

      https://qummunismus.at/a/article200/

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      @mond I know you're also in the cult, let's agree to disagree or I'll have to tear apart your blog post to point out all the cultish stuff in there. Let's just say, regarding "humiliation", that all I've seen from this tech definitely shows it's not satisfaktionsfähig. @tante

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      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

        No, OpenAI's new magic models did not autonomously hack Huggingface.

        Per OpenAI's PR blog post (https://openai.com/index/hugging-face-model-evaluation-security-incident/😞

        "This incident occurred during an internal evaluation which prompts models to pursue advanced exploitation using complex attack paths, in an effort to quantify their cyber capabilities. We estimate maximal cyber capabilities by running this evaluation without production classifiers used to prevent models from pursuing high-risk cyber activity."

        So they prompted their model running without guardrails to hack some shit. OpenAI told it to do that, the model didn't do shit autonomously (no LLM ever does anything autonomously, it's always prompted).

        The whole story is PR. We know that from Anthopic's Mythos: "Look we have this super secret new model and it's so powerful. We are scared ourselves. And you will soon be able to rent it!"

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        @tante
        - i do not think it's unlikely that the prompt said "get a good score on this benchmark" and the model wildly misinterpreted the goal, as anyone who uses llms sees them do all the time
        - even if the prompt was "hack huggingface", the fact that it did that without further prompting is noteworthy.

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        • mond@mas.toM mond@mas.to

          @cm @tante

          To me it rather seems that the AI-denial is a cult..

          Bergman:

          https://youtu.be/KpTZbq-eV38?is=yIA9reuuiFsgwaRO

          And with the "humiliations argument" we now have an explanation for it:

          https://qummunismus.at/a/article200/

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          @mond @cm @tante that's a nice propaganda video and nothing more ...

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