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  • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
    eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
    eliasulrich@hachyderm.io
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    #1

    "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

    It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

    It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

    What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

    The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

    There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

    It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

    https://marginalia-search.com/

    devonkiwi@mastodonapp.ukD miramarmike@cloudisland.nzM ewen@social.ewenbell.comE raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR rgbes@mastodon.socialR 68 Replies Last reply
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    • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

      "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

      It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

      It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

      What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

      The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

      There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

      It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

      https://marginalia-search.com/

      devonkiwi@mastodonapp.ukD This user is from outside of this forum
      devonkiwi@mastodonapp.ukD This user is from outside of this forum
      devonkiwi@mastodonapp.uk
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #2

      @eliasulrich Why won't they let us have nice things?
      "The search engine is currently under being hit so aggressively by bots it's interfering with the ability to serve regular search traffic. Emergency anti-scraping measures are enabled. Sorry about the inconvenience."

      rupert@mastodon.nzR katttivizzima@mastodon.unoK schmidt_fu@mstdn.socialS dheadshot@mastodon.socialD 4 Replies Last reply
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      • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

        "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

        It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

        It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

        What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

        The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

        There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

        It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

        https://marginalia-search.com/

        miramarmike@cloudisland.nzM This user is from outside of this forum
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        miramarmike@cloudisland.nz
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #3

        @eliasulrich not very good though, hopefully it gets better.

        I did a search for my name as I have had a blog for over 20 years, didn't come up.

        daveybot@mastodon.scotD joepie91@fedi.slightly.techJ aka_quant_noir@hcommons.socialA E 4 Replies Last reply
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        • miramarmike@cloudisland.nzM miramarmike@cloudisland.nz

          @eliasulrich not very good though, hopefully it gets better.

          I did a search for my name as I have had a blog for over 20 years, didn't come up.

          daveybot@mastodon.scotD This user is from outside of this forum
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          daveybot@mastodon.scot
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #4

          @miramarmike @eliasulrich Same for me, but I have a low enough sense of self-esteem that I've always felt this to be the appropriate result.

          miramarmike@cloudisland.nzM 1 Reply Last reply
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          • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net shared this topic
          • daveybot@mastodon.scotD daveybot@mastodon.scot

            @miramarmike @eliasulrich Same for me, but I have a low enough sense of self-esteem that I've always felt this to be the appropriate result.

            miramarmike@cloudisland.nzM This user is from outside of this forum
            miramarmike@cloudisland.nzM This user is from outside of this forum
            miramarmike@cloudisland.nz
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #5

            @daveybot @eliasulrich I'm the only person in the world with that name, can't be that hard surely

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            • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

              "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

              It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

              It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

              What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

              The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

              There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

              It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

              https://marginalia-search.com/

              ewen@social.ewenbell.comE This user is from outside of this forum
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              ewen@social.ewenbell.com
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #6
              @eliasulrich

              Genuinely impressive challenge to put something like this together. Just the capacity to scale to demand alone is mind boggling.

              It's fascinating to see the web though this lens.
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              • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                https://marginalia-search.com/

                raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
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                raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #7

                @eliasulrich
                "Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                Really?

                I use Qwant.

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                • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                  "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                  It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                  It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                  What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                  The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                  There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                  It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                  https://marginalia-search.com/

                  rgbes@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  rgbes@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #8

                  @eliasulrich you can find the author here on mastodon: @marginalia

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                  • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                    "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                    It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                    It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                    What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                    The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                    There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                    It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                    https://marginalia-search.com/

                    jaypeach53@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    jaypeach53@mastodon.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #9

                    @eliasulrich I just tried a search on Marginalia and DDG’s NoAI. The page is a WordPress blog. The Marginalia search found the page at index=20. DDG didn’t find the page after index=150. Looks like I’ll be searching using Marginalia before wasting my time on DDG’s “search”, which is Bing’s database.

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                    • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                      "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                      It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                      It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                      What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                      The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                      There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                      It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                      https://marginalia-search.com/

                      buford@twit.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                      buford@twit.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                      buford@twit.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #10

                      @eliasulrich Right then. I'll give it a go. 🤔

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                      • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                        "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                        It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                        It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                        What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                        The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                        There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                        It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                        https://marginalia-search.com/

                        netzradler@hessen.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        netzradler@hessen.social
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                        #11

                        @eliasulrich it's basically the first google-Page

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                        • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                          "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                          It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                          It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                          What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                          The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                          There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                          It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                          https://marginalia-search.com/

                          naturemc@mastodon.onlineN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          naturemc@mastodon.online
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                          #12

                          @eliasulrich You may recommend @marginalia - who is that 'guy in Sweden!'

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                          • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                            "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                            It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                            It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                            What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                            The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                            There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                            It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                            https://marginalia-search.com/

                            gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            gimulnautti@mastodon.green
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #13

                            @eliasulrich oh man, I could really get into using this one

                            Kagi.com is apparently good too, but uses google’s search index so need subscription

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                            • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                              "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                              It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                              It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                              What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                              The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                              There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                              It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                              https://marginalia-search.com/

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                              failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
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                              #14

                              @eliasulrich

                              NO NO NO NO, jeesus fucking christ on a stick, I implore you in the Bowels of Christ, G is more then just a ranked index of URLs

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                              • miramarmike@cloudisland.nzM miramarmike@cloudisland.nz

                                @daveybot @eliasulrich I'm the only person in the world with that name, can't be that hard surely

                                woe2you@beige.partyW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                woe2you@beige.party
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #15

                                @miramarmike @daveybot @eliasulrich https://github.com/MarginaliaSearch/submit-site-to-marginalia-search

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                                • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                                  "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                                  It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                                  It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                                  What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                                  The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                                  There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                                  It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                                  https://marginalia-search.com/

                                  wraptile@fosstodon.orgW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wraptile@fosstodon.org
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #16

                                  @eliasulrich yet another example of a good project being put to an early grave due to engineer inability to name things.

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                                  • miramarmike@cloudisland.nzM miramarmike@cloudisland.nz

                                    @eliasulrich not very good though, hopefully it gets better.

                                    I did a search for my name as I have had a blog for over 20 years, didn't come up.

                                    joepie91@fedi.slightly.techJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    joepie91@fedi.slightly.tech
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #17

                                    @miramarmike @eliasulrich I think "to fight google" is maybe not the ideal framing here tbh, it's not really trying to be a google alternative as far as I know

                                    in that rather than trying to index everything in existence, its goal is to make *information* searchable, and so the important thing is how much information it covers rather than how many sites

                                    and from that perspective, I would expect it to find an information subject, but not a specific name or person

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                                    • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                                      "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                                      It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                                      It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                                      What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                                      The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                                      There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                                      It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                                      https://marginalia-search.com/

                                      clare_hooley@mastodon.me.ukC This user is from outside of this forum
                                      clare_hooley@mastodon.me.ukC This user is from outside of this forum
                                      clare_hooley@mastodon.me.uk
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #18

                                      @eliasulrich it works, it really works. My blog name comes out as the second hit. It’s not even indexed by Google (you can find it in bing if you get a bit more specific with the search).

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                                      • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                                        "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                                        It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                                        It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                                        What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                                        The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                                        There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                                        It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                                        https://marginalia-search.com/

                                        leadinglines@mastodon.greenL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        leadinglines@mastodon.green
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #19

                                        @eliasulrich Is it good, is it bad? Is it vibe coded, is it a Honeypot? I don't know.

                                        What I do know is I searched for 'photography', then got stuck for 20 minutes on three pages from the top results that were all free of ads, dickovers and affiliate links, and they all smelled distinctly of human generated content. ☺️

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                                        • joepie91@fedi.slightly.techJ joepie91@fedi.slightly.tech

                                          @miramarmike @eliasulrich I think "to fight google" is maybe not the ideal framing here tbh, it's not really trying to be a google alternative as far as I know

                                          in that rather than trying to index everything in existence, its goal is to make *information* searchable, and so the important thing is how much information it covers rather than how many sites

                                          and from that perspective, I would expect it to find an information subject, but not a specific name or person

                                          marginalia@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          marginalia@mastodon.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #20

                                          @joepie91 @miramarmike @eliasulrich

                                          Yeah I'd really like to see an ecosystem of independent search and discovery systems working together to formulate an alternative to Google, much more so than being a one stop shop Google replacement. That seems like a healthier future for the web if nothing else.

                                          joepie91@fedi.slightly.techJ kyebr@hachyderm.ioK 0x0@hachyderm.io0 3 Replies Last reply
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