The NASA Artemis II mission is targeted for launch as early as Feb.
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@grb090423
Yes indeed.
ESM = European Service Module.
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Good Morning, Artemis II.
12/n@markmccaughrean
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You will appreciate the framing of this photograph above (post #12), taken by NASA astronaut and Commander Reid Wiseman, of the Artemis II SLS stack with the European Service Module (ESM) departing the Vehicle Assembly Building at KSC, FL. -
@markmccaughrean
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You will appreciate the framing of this photograph above (post #12), taken by NASA astronaut and Commander Reid Wiseman, of the Artemis II SLS stack with the European Service Module (ESM) departing the Vehicle Assembly Building at KSC, FL.@AkaSci Well, you’ve got to get it out the door somehow

To be honest though, I’m deeply unexcited by Artemis. Almost sixty years after Apollo & despite all the huge developments in tech & computing since, it has a ridiculously slow cadence to repeat essentially the same feat: for reference, all of Apollo 8, 9, 10, & 11 happened within a 7 month period
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@AkaSci Well, you’ve got to get it out the door somehow

To be honest though, I’m deeply unexcited by Artemis. Almost sixty years after Apollo & despite all the huge developments in tech & computing since, it has a ridiculously slow cadence to repeat essentially the same feat: for reference, all of Apollo 8, 9, 10, & 11 happened within a 7 month period
. And the joint architecture with SpaceX for actually landing on the Moon is completely bananas.@AkaSci Add to that the current political background, & I’m struggling to conjure much enthusiasm.
I don’t mean to take anything away from the engineers & astronauts who achieved a miracle in the 1960s or those doing it again today, but it’s not taking place in a vacuum.
Of course, Apollo also took place in a dark & dangerous time of superpower struggle & as a direct product of it, but I was just a kid then – now I hope I know better.
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@AkaSci Add to that the current political background, & I’m struggling to conjure much enthusiasm.
I don’t mean to take anything away from the engineers & astronauts who achieved a miracle in the 1960s or those doing it again today, but it’s not taking place in a vacuum.
Of course, Apollo also took place in a dark & dangerous time of superpower struggle & as a direct product of it, but I was just a kid then – now I hope I know better.
@AkaSci Personally, I find it quite disappointing that so many of my friends & colleagues in the space bubble choose to ignore the political environment that surrounds their “hobby”.
Particularly today, given that space is also the hobby of some of the richest individuals on the planet, people who fund the neo-fascists in power, & whose other businesses manipulate public opinion while trampling all over civil & labour regulations.
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@AkaSci Personally, I find it quite disappointing that so many of my friends & colleagues in the space bubble choose to ignore the political environment that surrounds their “hobby”.
Particularly today, given that space is also the hobby of some of the richest individuals on the planet, people who fund the neo-fascists in power, & whose other businesses manipulate public opinion while trampling all over civil & labour regulations.
<rant mode off>
@markmccaughrean
Thanks for your insights and thoughts.If we could somehow eliminate the political and billionaire problems, what would your vision be for the future of space exploration?
- Human exploration of the moon and Mars or robotic only?
- Human spaceflight in LEO?
- Megaconstellations?
- Space mining?
- Robotic exploration of distant planets and moons (again)
- Missions to exoplanets?
- More astronomy and space telescopes?
- More Earth observation missions
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@AkaSci Personally, I find it quite disappointing that so many of my friends & colleagues in the space bubble choose to ignore the political environment that surrounds their “hobby”.
Particularly today, given that space is also the hobby of some of the richest individuals on the planet, people who fund the neo-fascists in power, & whose other businesses manipulate public opinion while trampling all over civil & labour regulations.
<rant mode off>
@markmccaughrean @AkaSci I fully agree with you.
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@markmccaughrean
Thanks for your insights and thoughts.If we could somehow eliminate the political and billionaire problems, what would your vision be for the future of space exploration?
- Human exploration of the moon and Mars or robotic only?
- Human spaceflight in LEO?
- Megaconstellations?
- Space mining?
- Robotic exploration of distant planets and moons (again)
- Missions to exoplanets?
- More astronomy and space telescopes?
- More Earth observation missions
- ?@AkaSci @markmccaughrean mega constellations are the pet projects of billionaires that dream of controlling how we connect to the internet (and also, btw, yet another method of spying on the position of anyone with a cell phone) with mega tons of space junk that increases the risk of in orbit collisions and atmospheric pollution, while hurting all forms of optical and radio astronomy. Not sure it's a good thing for the "future of space exploration"...
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@grb090423
Yes indeed.
ESM = European Service Module.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Service_Module@AkaSci @grb090423 you saw Bremen‘s Space contribution at best

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