Own goal of the century:
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@androcat @benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague but jewish are from that place, so why can't they be there? I don't understand your point of view. Then there are jewish "arabs" or whatever you wanna call them who's grandparents grandparents were born there. And what "violence" did they do to get there? Ottomans gave Palestine to British and British gave it to Israelis and palestinians
Palestinians are also from that place.
Their ancestors lived there continuously for all of recorded history and beyond.It's the same situation as in the Balkans: the people didn't get exchanged, they just changed their culture. And suddenly some other people who ALSO changed their culture say "We have a right to move there, because of ancient history, and we're going to murder all those people whose ancestors actually did live there in the past"
Don't pretend these are somehow equal propositions.
And the jewish arabs, by the very fact of having lived there forever, were not in any sort of danger before Israel was forced upon the land.
@benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
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@androcat @benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague this is what irks me the most with the left (I consider myself radical leftist) that you compare white europeans going to Africa the same as jews going & making Israel. Whites are not from Africa, their ancestors are not from there. White europeans were not persecuted out of Africa. It would be like saying Romani's shouldnt go and make their own state in India because it's been 100s of years when they came to Europe.
Ancient fairy tales do not give the right to murder people and take their land.
@benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
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@Thatfeministwoman @pizzadoesntexist @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
you just gave me a flashback to when i used to work nights at this IT job and the janitor was a recent immigrant (in new york city)
he was a catholic kosovar albanian
anyway we talked a lot of shit because it was just us two
and what impressed me was how he said what you just said. he got very serious and spoke slower and stared in the distance, this resolution to let the past be the past
@benroyce @pizzadoesntexist @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague there was this one rapper in Kosovo who had the Cross necklace and as he was going on stage in prishtina they told him to not wear it cause muslims will not like it (most of kosovars are like 90-98% muslims) My parents are also very hateful towards christians
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@benroyce @pizzadoesntexist @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague OMG wow CATHOLIC KOSOVARIAN ?!
Did they bully him out of the country? 
@Thatfeministwoman @pizzadoesntexist @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
i don't think so. this guy was built like fucking arnold schwarzenegger. i'm not remotely kidding, dude was super buff
this was in the 2000s, so he came over after all the 1990s bullshit
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Ancient fairy tales do not give the right to murder people and take their land.
@benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
@androcat @benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague but it's not a fairytale. Aa much as we like to talk shit about christians being bullies and percecuting anyone who doesn't believe what they do, so do muslims. You don't probably know much about Ottomans cause they haven't affected your life or your ancestors but shit the both religions are so intolerant of others
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@benroyce @pizzadoesntexist @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague there was this one rapper in Kosovo who had the Cross necklace and as he was going on stage in prishtina they told him to not wear it cause muslims will not like it (most of kosovars are like 90-98% muslims) My parents are also very hateful towards christians
@Thatfeministwoman @pizzadoesntexist @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
that's how he got to the states! persecution. mass refugee resettlement. long long before trump when the usa was only half stupid and not full stupid
not all of us can be as enlightened as dua lipa
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@androcat @benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague but it's not a fairytale. Aa much as we like to talk shit about christians being bullies and percecuting anyone who doesn't believe what they do, so do muslims. You don't probably know much about Ottomans cause they haven't affected your life or your ancestors but shit the both religions are so intolerant of others
I am talking about religious texts being used as historical documents to justify murder.
Fact is : Israelis are mostly not from Israel. They are mostly immigrants from all over the place. There is no credible basis for saying they have a right to return, all of that is a purely political and antisemitic agreement, made by politicians who wanted jews out of europe.
@benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
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Palestinians are also from that place.
Their ancestors lived there continuously for all of recorded history and beyond.It's the same situation as in the Balkans: the people didn't get exchanged, they just changed their culture. And suddenly some other people who ALSO changed their culture say "We have a right to move there, because of ancient history, and we're going to murder all those people whose ancestors actually did live there in the past"
Don't pretend these are somehow equal propositions.
And the jewish arabs, by the very fact of having lived there forever, were not in any sort of danger before Israel was forced upon the land.
@benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
@androcat @benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague "fun fact" what most people don't know probably but Serbia & Turkey made a deal that they would put Kosovarians to Turkey and Turkey would make them Turk (forget their language and everything) and Serbia would get the country. So it would be almost the same thing If they would have succeeded with it completely and Kosovo Turks would want to go back to Kosovo
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I am talking about religious texts being used as historical documents to justify murder.
Fact is : Israelis are mostly not from Israel. They are mostly immigrants from all over the place. There is no credible basis for saying they have a right to return, all of that is a purely political and antisemitic agreement, made by politicians who wanted jews out of europe.
@benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
@androcat @Thatfeministwoman @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
androcat, i asked you a question and you ignored it:
are there going to be two states in your formulation?
yes or no
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@androcat @benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague "fun fact" what most people don't know probably but Serbia & Turkey made a deal that they would put Kosovarians to Turkey and Turkey would make them Turk (forget their language and everything) and Serbia would get the country. So it would be almost the same thing If they would have succeeded with it completely and Kosovo Turks would want to go back to Kosovo
Yeah, Serbia is the Israel of the Balkans.
@benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
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I am talking about religious texts being used as historical documents to justify murder.
Fact is : Israelis are mostly not from Israel. They are mostly immigrants from all over the place. There is no credible basis for saying they have a right to return, all of that is a purely political and antisemitic agreement, made by politicians who wanted jews out of europe.
@benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
@androcat @benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague I'm sorry but no f*cking way are they europeans!
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@androcat @Thatfeministwoman @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
androcat, i asked you a question and you ignored it:
are there going to be two states in your formulation?
yes or no
Let me counter with another question:
Does Israel honor the borders of its neighbors (currently existing, neighboring nations)?If no, then you know a two-state solution is impossible.
@Thatfeministwoman @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
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Let me counter with another question:
Does Israel honor the borders of its neighbors (currently existing, neighboring nations)?If no, then you know a two-state solution is impossible.
@Thatfeministwoman @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
@androcat @benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague they seem not to. That's why they need to throw this government and have a better government. But the truth is is that these arab states want this havoc that's why they are supporting it, palestinians are completely innocent in all this, they are just pawns. Arabs want to make believe that islamofobia is a thing and that islam is attacked and blaah blaah. I heard that Benjamin gave money to Hamas for Oct 7.
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Let me counter with another question:
Does Israel honor the borders of its neighbors (currently existing, neighboring nations)?If no, then you know a two-state solution is impossible.
@Thatfeministwoman @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
@androcat @benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague They don't want this to end, these big money arab states and Israel. That's what I believe. It was weird when I read that Israel wanted to give Palestine to Jordan (or was it Egypt?) but they didn't want it. If they would have f*king taken it then they could have made it their own state and then they could've had peace, morons. But yeah muslims care so much about eachother lol
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Let me counter with another question:
Does Israel honor the borders of its neighbors (currently existing, neighboring nations)?If no, then you know a two-state solution is impossible.
@Thatfeministwoman @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
@androcat @benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague sorry If it makes you uncomfortable that I talk so much s**t about muslims but I'm from a muslim family so hopefully I'm allowed. Hopefully I won't get blocked. Just fyi I hate all religions. I'm not a right wing "I love christianity and hate islam"
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@androcat @benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague sorry If it makes you uncomfortable that I talk so much s**t about muslims but I'm from a muslim family so hopefully I'm allowed. Hopefully I won't get blocked. Just fyi I hate all religions. I'm not a right wing "I love christianity and hate islam"
@Thatfeministwoman @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
i didn't think you were
i'm not saying anything because i'm not muslim. nor ex-muslim. nor able to speak authoritatively on any of these topics. if i said anything, i'd just say something stupid
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@androcat @benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague sorry If it makes you uncomfortable that I talk so much s**t about muslims but I'm from a muslim family so hopefully I'm allowed. Hopefully I won't get blocked. Just fyi I hate all religions. I'm not a right wing "I love christianity and hate islam"
Eh. Fair use.
To be perfectly clear: conservative politicians who claim to be "religious" are always always always scum.
Doesn't matter if they're buddhist or christian or jewish or muslim or animists or whatever.
And as an atheist, I also have to point out that most atheist "leaders" are scum also.
And funnily enough, they all seem to have been buddies with Epstein.
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@Thatfeministwoman @androcat @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
i didn't think you were
i'm not saying anything because i'm not muslim. nor ex-muslim. nor able to speak authoritatively on any of these topics. if i said anything, i'd just say something stupid
@benroyce I was saying to the other guy (?) cause I felt like next he was gonna scold me for it
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Eh. Fair use.
To be perfectly clear: conservative politicians who claim to be "religious" are always always always scum.
Doesn't matter if they're buddhist or christian or jewish or muslim or animists or whatever.
And as an atheist, I also have to point out that most atheist "leaders" are scum also.
And funnily enough, they all seem to have been buddies with Epstein.
@benroyce @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague@androcat @Thatfeministwoman @ManWhoTalksToHisHand @lordkhan @randahl @FrancoisPrague
i don't have a problem with any religion
i have a problem with all religious fundamentalists and extremists, of any religion, and as you indicate, irreligion. zealots come in a zillion flavors
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@benroyce I was saying to the other guy (?) cause I felt like next he was gonna scold me for it
sorry!
i'll shut up
