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Ken Thompson, 1983: wouldn't it be awful if someone snuck secret code into a compiler that broke our ability to trust the output of a computer

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  • ricci@discuss.systemsR This user is from outside of this forum
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    Ken Thompson, 1983: wouldn't it be awful if someone snuck secret code into a compiler that broke our ability to trust the output of a computer

    AI Guy, 2026: wouldn't it be cool if we stuck something we know can't be trusted into every part of the computer

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    • ricci@discuss.systemsR ricci@discuss.systems

      Ken Thompson, 1983: wouldn't it be awful if someone snuck secret code into a compiler that broke our ability to trust the output of a computer

      AI Guy, 2026: wouldn't it be cool if we stuck something we know can't be trusted into every part of the computer

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      @ricci For those who didn't do Computing Science (which is different to "coding" or "programming") the paper is at https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/358198.358210
      Literally EVERY computer user for a generation *should* have read this. Few have. Fewer have understood it.

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        @ricci For those who didn't do Computing Science (which is different to "coding" or "programming") the paper is at https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/358198.358210
        Literally EVERY computer user for a generation *should* have read this. Few have. Fewer have understood it.

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        @WellsiteGeo @ricci Wrong reference! It's p. 52 (PDF p. 56) of https://seclab.cs.ucdavis.edu/projects/history/papers/karg74.pdf#?page=56 (1974).

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          @ricci For those who didn't do Computing Science (which is different to "coding" or "programming") the paper is at https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/358198.358210
          Literally EVERY computer user for a generation *should* have read this. Few have. Fewer have understood it.

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          @WellsiteGeo @ricci I haven't read the paper but there's an excellent discussion of it for laypeople in the book "Your computer is on fire." Highly recommend.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_Computer_Is_on_Fire

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