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  3. Watching Fedi and the world react to the US president go absolutely unhinged in public, threatening war crimes as his cognitive grip disintegrates before our eyes, watching the horror and the outrage…there is something I want to tell you from Minneapolis.

Watching Fedi and the world react to the US president go absolutely unhinged in public, threatening war crimes as his cognitive grip disintegrates before our eyes, watching the horror and the outrage…there is something I want to tell you from Minneapolis.

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  • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

    2/

    63 billionaires funded Jan 6.

    https://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2021/01/12/trumps-billionaire-enablers-63-billionaires-worth-243-billion-who-bankrolled

    Mueller never investigated the recipients of Putin's election meddling.

    Why not?
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/06/the-nra-spent-dollar30-million-to-elect-trump-was-it-russian-money

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/20/larry-ellison-oracle-trump-election-challenges/

    This isn’t simply campaign finance, it's vast public corruption on an international scale.

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    #68

    3/
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/07/us/elections/electoral-college-biden-objectors.html

    https://theintercept.com/2022/06/30/supreme-court-epa-climate-charles-koch/

    The donors that bought 147 congressional election deniers, a Supreme Court, and numerous government bodies

    Investigate these entities first.

    1. SpaceX $288,723,409
    2. Adelson Clinic/Miriam Adelson $146,881,700
    3. Uline Inc $146,027,201
    4. Citadel LLC $108,669,316
    5. Susquehanna International Group $101,468,362
    6. Andreessen Horowitz $89,036,553
    7. Empower Parents PAC $82,500,000
    8. Coinbase $79,008,020
    9. Elliott Management $68,846,510

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    • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

      3/
      https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/07/us/elections/electoral-college-biden-objectors.html

      https://theintercept.com/2022/06/30/supreme-court-epa-climate-charles-koch/

      The donors that bought 147 congressional election deniers, a Supreme Court, and numerous government bodies

      Investigate these entities first.

      1. SpaceX $288,723,409
      2. Adelson Clinic/Miriam Adelson $146,881,700
      3. Uline Inc $146,027,201
      4. Citadel LLC $108,669,316
      5. Susquehanna International Group $101,468,362
      6. Andreessen Horowitz $89,036,553
      7. Empower Parents PAC $82,500,000
      8. Coinbase $79,008,020
      9. Elliott Management $68,846,510

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      #69

      4/

      10. Securing American Greatness $67,558,284
      11. Senate Leadership Fund $67,445,300
      12. Club for Growth $59,846,594
      13. Koch Inc $49,092,685
      14. Blackstone Group $48,609,890
      15.  Stand Together Chamber of Commerce $44,801,948
      16. Restoration PAC $41,168,363
      17. Crownquest Operating $35,752,512
      18. Bigelow Aerospace $34,991,590
      19. Building America's Future $33,670,000
      20. Stephens Inc $27,343,518
      21. British American Tobacco $26,175,838
      22. American Prosperity Alliance $22,549,000

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      • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

        4/

        10. Securing American Greatness $67,558,284
        11. Senate Leadership Fund $67,445,300
        12. Club for Growth $59,846,594
        13. Koch Inc $49,092,685
        14. Blackstone Group $48,609,890
        15.  Stand Together Chamber of Commerce $44,801,948
        16. Restoration PAC $41,168,363
        17. Crownquest Operating $35,752,512
        18. Bigelow Aerospace $34,991,590
        19. Building America's Future $33,670,000
        20. Stephens Inc $27,343,518
        21. British American Tobacco $26,175,838
        22. American Prosperity Alliance $22,549,000

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        #70

        5/

        23. Manzanita Management Group $22,159,143
        24. America First Action/America First Policies $21,724,798
        25. Mountaire Corp $21,375,080
        26. Reyes Holdings $21,192,607
        27. Energy Transfer LP $19,321,695
        28. Hendricks Holding Co $19,306,538

        https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/top-organizations

        These individuals fund Trump & the GOP's corruption:

        1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
        2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
        3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
        4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
        5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
        6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680

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        • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

          5/

          23. Manzanita Management Group $22,159,143
          24. America First Action/America First Policies $21,724,798
          25. Mountaire Corp $21,375,080
          26. Reyes Holdings $21,192,607
          27. Energy Transfer LP $19,321,695
          28. Hendricks Holding Co $19,306,538

          https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/top-organizations

          These individuals fund Trump & the GOP's corruption:

          1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
          2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
          3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
          4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
          5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
          6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680

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          #71

          6/

          They funded an insane wannabe dictator into the Oval Office. Deliberately.

          7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800
          8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
          9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
          10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
          11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
          12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
          13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
          14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116
          15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
          16. Isaac & Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
          17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
          18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
          19. Jan Koum $20,855,091

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          • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

            @LukefromDC @inthehands

            https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-oil-industry-donations

            I have one suggestion, go after the money of the billionaires funding MAGA.

            Here's a list to be Investigated for RICO & sedition.

            Bradley, Koch, Coors, Scaife, Mellon, Seid, Uihlein.

            https://www.desmog.com/2024/08/14/project-2025-billionaire-donor-heritage-foundation-donald-trump-jd-vance-charles-koch-peter-coors/

            https://www.desmog.com/2025/01/21/mapped-donald-trump-transatlantic-anti-green-network/

            https://www.desmog.com/2026/04/01/the-vested-interests-lobbying-for-north-sea-oil-and-gas-expansion/

            The fossil fuel industry funds fascism globally.

            https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

            Tech is co-opted

            https://www.axios.com/2017/12/14/koch-tries-its-hand-at-venture-capital-1513277500

            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-06/google-thiel-stand-out-in-saudi-prince-s-silicon-valley-tour

            https://www.businessinsider.com/saudi-arabia-crown-prince-visits-apple-google-2018-4

            1/

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            #72

            @Npars01 @LukefromDC @inthehands

            End the fallacy that corporations are people

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            • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

              6/

              They funded an insane wannabe dictator into the Oval Office. Deliberately.

              7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800
              8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
              9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
              10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
              11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
              12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
              13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
              14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116
              15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
              16. Isaac & Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
              17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
              18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
              19. Jan Koum $20,855,091

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              #73

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              These folks fund Trump's kleptocracy.

              20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263
              21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
              22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
              23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
              24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
              25. Walter W. Buckley Jr. $15,522,500
              26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
              27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000
              28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
              29. David Millstone $13,413,486
              30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
              31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
              32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
              33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705

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              • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                7/

                These folks fund Trump's kleptocracy.

                20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263
                21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
                22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
                23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
                24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
                25. Walter W. Buckley Jr. $15,522,500
                26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
                27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000
                28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705

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                #74

                8/

                Tax the rich.

                34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324
                36. James Davis $8,497,854
                37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                41. Jeffrey Specher, Kelly Loeffler $7,052,013
                42. John L. Nau III $7,030,556
                43. John & Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389

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                • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                  8/

                  Tax the rich.

                  34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                  35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324
                  36. James Davis $8,497,854
                  37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                  38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                  39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                  40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                  41. Jeffrey Specher, Kelly Loeffler $7,052,013
                  42. John L. Nau III $7,030,556
                  43. John & Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                  44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                  45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                  46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                  47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389

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                  #75

                  9/

                  Get rid of Citizens United & their tax cuts.

                  48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                  49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                  50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928
                  51. Trevor D. Rees-Jones $5,765,124
                  52. Ross & Sarah Perot $5,643,416
                  53. Harold C. Simmons $5,596,530
                  54. Kelly Navarro $5,373,100
                  55. Alice Walton $10,248,000
                  56. Rob Granieri $5,587,899

                  https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/biggest-donors

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                  • jfmezei@cosocial.caJ jfmezei@cosocial.ca

                    @barbra @inthehands The problem is that by the time the signs of demantia are obvious enough to diagnoze officially, the person is already pretty advanced, (but can still have good days).

                    In a case such as Trump, because the chief of staff can hide the president on his down days, we don't get to see such obvious signs. The tell will be when he forgets to use utensils during state dinner visible to foreign leaders (or to media).

                    Differentiating between normal Trump & mental illness is hard

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                    #76

                    @jfmezei @inthehands We can tell when someone use a sociopath - they will tell you with their actions, and Trump has screamed sociopath for decades. The Goldberg Rule was always bullshit.

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                    • B barbra@social.vivaldi.net

                      @jfmezei @inthehands We can tell when someone use a sociopath - they will tell you with their actions, and Trump has screamed sociopath for decades. The Goldberg Rule was always bullshit.

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                      #77

                      @barbra @inthehands And it is because Trump has been sociopath for decades that it becomes hard to diagnose dementia since he is just worse than before and it's impossible to measure until there are clear signs.

                      Normally, imagining that everyone is against you and stealing stuff from you is textbook psychosis. But Trump has worked so hard to make ennemies, that it is true that everyone is against him.

                      His inability to let go of crowd sie, and now the 2020 election loss does point to problem.

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                      • nanowiz@vmst.ioN nanowiz@vmst.io

                        @Npars01 @LukefromDC @inthehands

                        End the fallacy that corporations are people

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                        #78

                        @nanowiz @LukefromDC @inthehands

                        Koch Network waged a decades-long malign influence campaigns to get "corporate personhood".

                        Their next effort is "AI personhood" so they can buy swarms of AI agents to overwhelm and overturn the will of real people.

                        https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/30/artificial-intelligence-personhood

                        https://futuristspeaker.com/artificial-intelligence/the-person-in-the-machine-why-ai-rights-are-inevitable-and-arriving-sooner-than-you-think/

                        https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/ais-leaps-forward-force-talks-about-legal-personhood-for-tech

                        https://www.acsh.org/news/2025/11/20/your-chatbot-will-soon-be-alive-courtesy-lawyers-and-philosophers-49829

                        For people freaked out over extremely rare non-citizen voter fraud, the GOP are weirdly unperturbed by Putin launching "AI voters" at elections.

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                        • nanowiz@vmst.ioN nanowiz@vmst.io

                          @Npars01 @LukefromDC @inthehands

                          End the fallacy that corporations are people

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                          #79

                          @nanowiz @Npars01 @LukefromDC @inthehands

                          It was a useful piece of propaganda for the side winning the class war, wasn’t it?

                          One day, the working class will rise, even in the US.

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                          • jfmezei@cosocial.caJ jfmezei@cosocial.ca

                            @barbra @inthehands And it is because Trump has been sociopath for decades that it becomes hard to diagnose dementia since he is just worse than before and it's impossible to measure until there are clear signs.

                            Normally, imagining that everyone is against you and stealing stuff from you is textbook psychosis. But Trump has worked so hard to make ennemies, that it is true that everyone is against him.

                            His inability to let go of crowd sie, and now the 2020 election loss does point to problem.

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                            #80

                            @jfmezei @inthehands but in the end whether he has dementia is irrelevant - his sociopath alone is enough for an article 25 removal from office, since it renders him unfit to act in the country's best interest.

                            But like the old saying goes, you get the ruler you deserve. Americans knew what he was, and enough voted for him. The US has only itself to blame because, unfortunately, anyone can become president. Including a known crook.

                            What would be have done differently if he were a Russian agent? Nothing. Putin bailed him out from certain bankruptcy by guaranteeing a loan through Deutch Bank when no American bank would.

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                              @jfmezei @inthehands but in the end whether he has dementia is irrelevant - his sociopath alone is enough for an article 25 removal from office, since it renders him unfit to act in the country's best interest.

                              But like the old saying goes, you get the ruler you deserve. Americans knew what he was, and enough voted for him. The US has only itself to blame because, unfortunately, anyone can become president. Including a known crook.

                              What would be have done differently if he were a Russian agent? Nothing. Putin bailed him out from certain bankruptcy by guaranteeing a loan through Deutch Bank when no American bank would.

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                              #81

                              @barbra @inthehands When felon Trump ran for office, his candidacy was challenged in court since constitution bars felons. Supreme court ruled it wasn,t their business to interfere with elections and it was up to the people to choose.

                              Amd when Supreme Court decided Trump had immunity as President, it was with understanding that Congress was the one with jurisdiction to impeach him for crimes.

                              25th requires VP, majority of cabinet and majority of Congress to be challenge-proof. Not happening

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                              • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                My fellow people of the United States, if I have anything to teach from what Minneapolis just lived through, it is this:

                                Nobody is coming to save us.

                                Not Congress. Not the courts. Not the ICC or the EU or NATO. Not the generals or the rank and file. Not the press. Not the markets. Not the elections. Not some mythical version of “The People” that materializes out of nowhere as some messianic external force.

                                We’re it. We’re all we’ve got. If we don’t stop fascism from completely engulfing the US, then nobody stops it.

                                7/

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                                @inthehands 👍💯👍

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                                  [The quote is from the book _The Country Between Us_ by Carolyn Forché. It is some of the most powerful and gut-wrenching poetry I’ve ever read, and the book still burns like a hot coal in my hands when I hold it. The book is among other things the origin of my handle, “in the hands.” Don’t look up that quote; look up the book. Read it slowly. You’ll know the quotes when you find them.]

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                                  #83

                                  @inthehands
                                  Thanks for sharing that. Carolyn Forché is my friend's mom but I don't know her work much. I only know she was one of Ta-Nehisi Coates's professors and mentors. I'll have to take a closer look!

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                                  • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                    Watching Fedi and the world react to the US president go absolutely unhinged in public, threatening war crimes as his cognitive grip disintegrates before our eyes, watching the horror and the outrage…there is something I want to tell you from Minneapolis.

                                    And I’m not sure how, and I’m not sure if I can, but I want to try. People are always thanking us and calling us heroes and asking us for some kind of…something, anything we can offer in the face of the authoritarian march, and well, here it is, here is something, if I can figure out how to say it.

                                    🧵

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                                    @inthehands well put. Bracing.

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                                    • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                      [The quote is from the book _The Country Between Us_ by Carolyn Forché. It is some of the most powerful and gut-wrenching poetry I’ve ever read, and the book still burns like a hot coal in my hands when I hold it. The book is among other things the origin of my handle, “in the hands.” Don’t look up that quote; look up the book. Read it slowly. You’ll know the quotes when you find them.]

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                                      #85

                                      @inthehands
                                      thank you, all of you

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                                      • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                        Watching Fedi and the world react to the US president go absolutely unhinged in public, threatening war crimes as his cognitive grip disintegrates before our eyes, watching the horror and the outrage…there is something I want to tell you from Minneapolis.

                                        And I’m not sure how, and I’m not sure if I can, but I want to try. People are always thanking us and calling us heroes and asking us for some kind of…something, anything we can offer in the face of the authoritarian march, and well, here it is, here is something, if I can figure out how to say it.

                                        🧵

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                                        @inthehands

                                        In our search of that something else, we failed time and again.

                                        Those who we encountered either wanted to lead us or wanted us to lead them.

                                        There were those who got close to us out of an eagerness to use us, or to gaze backward, be it with anthropological or militant nostalgia. …

                                        At last, someone who understood that we were not looking for shepherds to guide us, nor flocks to lead to the promised land. Neither masters nor slaves. Neither leaders nor leaderless masses.

                                        — Subcomandante Marcos. "Between Light and Shadow". Enlace Zapatista, 2014-05-27.

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                                        • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                          Watching Fedi and the world react to the US president go absolutely unhinged in public, threatening war crimes as his cognitive grip disintegrates before our eyes, watching the horror and the outrage…there is something I want to tell you from Minneapolis.

                                          And I’m not sure how, and I’m not sure if I can, but I want to try. People are always thanking us and calling us heroes and asking us for some kind of…something, anything we can offer in the face of the authoritarian march, and well, here it is, here is something, if I can figure out how to say it.

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                                          @inthehands

                                          I think it was Bernard Williams who once remarked about a mildly famous thought experiment which goes like this:

                                          You’re walking by a lake and see a child drowning. But it turns out that the child is Hitler or Trump or whoever. Now apply various moral theories to see what they tell you to do in this situation.

                                          Williams says, Anyone who actually behaved this way in such a situation is already a moral monster. A morally good person seeing a child in danger does not stop and think about the ethics of the situation.

                                          The morally good person, not a moral hero mind you - this is about meeting a moral minimum, sees the need and acts.

                                          Was reminded of this as I read your thread.

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Williams

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