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  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

    Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

    For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

    Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

    mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
    mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
    mastodonmigration@mastodon.online
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    #48

    @mattblaze

    Props for 'mastoscold'

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    • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

      Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

      For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

      Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

      64bithero@mstdn.games6 This user is from outside of this forum
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      #49

      @mattblaze Strange , I see no issue with it

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      • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

        Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

        For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

        Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

        caiocgo@social.vivaldi.netC This user is from outside of this forum
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        caiocgo@social.vivaldi.net
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        #50

        @mattblaze I suggest you start selling now just to piss these people off hahaha

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        • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

          @ohir Getting paid. In the fediverse?

          Ha!

          But on a more serious note, I really think it's just people who see themselves as the defenders of a small, vulnerable community. Fighting a righteous fight.

          We have to actively call this stuff out and report it as harassment.

          @mattblaze @c_dan4th

          ohir@social.vivaldi.netO This user is from outside of this forum
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          #51

          @stefan
          > I really think it's just people who see themselves as the defenders of a small, vulnerable community.
          Err... Vulnerable, small, offended by the architecture? What Matt Blaze reported fits into the operative playbook. Below analysis from 2020, and it didn't abated since.

          @mattblaze @c_dan4th

          https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/article/russian-disinformation-campaigns-on-twitter/

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          • chris@westmichigan.socialC chris@westmichigan.social

            @Kiloku @mattblaze I feel like I wouldn't mind ads by a corporation on Mastodon. I see everything as opt-in: if I don't want their ads I don't follow them, if people boost their ads and it makes it onto my feed I can just mute them or something.

            I'd rather have some ads that I can easily ignore than be on a platform that forces me to see ads.

            caiocgo@social.vivaldi.netC This user is from outside of this forum
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            #52

            @chris @Kiloku @mattblaze I totally agree with Chris. Since there is no way to force an ad in my feed, I understand that by following a commercial venture here implies seeing something they want to sell me. I am OK with that.

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            • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

              Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

              For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

              Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

              raymierussell@mastodon.scotR This user is from outside of this forum
              raymierussell@mastodon.scotR This user is from outside of this forum
              raymierussell@mastodon.scot
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #53

              @mattblaze
              Fuck 'em.
              I occasionally post a referal link for my mobile phone provider because I genuinely rate them and it gets myself and any referal person a nice freebie.

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              • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

                @stefan
                > I really think it's just people who see themselves as the defenders of a small, vulnerable community.
                Err... Vulnerable, small, offended by the architecture? What Matt Blaze reported fits into the operative playbook. Below analysis from 2020, and it didn't abated since.

                @mattblaze @c_dan4th

                https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/article/russian-disinformation-campaigns-on-twitter/

                stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #54

                @ohir I tried to find the reply or replies Matt was referring to, so it's really hard to comment on this further.

                Mostly just going by the type of interactions I have witnessed, largely in screenshots getting shared around. And those definitely were not "paid trolls".

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                • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                  Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                  For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                  Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                  rabid@mastodon.worldR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #55

                  @mattblaze Don't let the scolds get you down. Focus on the people who enjoy looking at your pictures. (I hope I don't sound like I'm scolding.)

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                  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                    Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                    For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                    Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                    psoul@sfba.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #56

                    @mattblaze just like that person on Lemmy who doesn’t want to see artist signatures on comics and cartoons because they assume any promotion is advertising and all advertising is bad…

                    LOL. These people can block me or block my instance.idc.

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                    • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                      Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                      For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                      Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                      vulgalour@birdbutt.comV This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #57

                      @mattblaze That sounds like a good excuse to promote them more, just to wind them up if nothing else.

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                      • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                        Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                        For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                        Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                        davew@mastodon.onlineD This user is from outside of this forum
                        davew@mastodon.onlineD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #58

                        @mattblaze Ignore them. Mastodon is what you make it. Promote what matters to you. Those who don’t care can just move along

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                        • brad@1040ste.netB brad@1040ste.net

                          @mattblaze How are people seeing your toots, if not through recommendations from others? Like, shouldn't they be annoyed with (and stop following) the retooter if they don't like what they're seeing? Assuming they aren't following you of course, in which case their reaction is even more inexplicable.

                          turi@kinkycats.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #59

                          @brad @mattblaze
                          Technically they could see them in the federated timeline.
                          And then get mad that people are using "mastodon wrong".

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                          • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                            Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                            For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                            Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                            rrwo@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #60

                            @mattblaze I like your photos, and the history you sometimes add about the subjects.

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                            • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                              Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                              For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                              Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                              bloodravenlib@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #61

                              @mattblaze "mastoscold." I'll need to borrow that term now and then.

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                              • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                                For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                                Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                                thestrangelet@beige.partyT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                thestrangelet@beige.party
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                                #62

                                @mattblaze There is a ton of performative purity culture here, we could do without it. That being said I do draw the line at a few things - fascism, hate, racism, but sharing your art and photography... that's ethical y'all.

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                                • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                  Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                                  For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                                  Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                                  jkanev@fediscience.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #63

                                  @mattblaze Asking someone, on social media, not to promote themselves, on social media, is weird.

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                                  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                    Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                                    For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                                    Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                                    csstrowbridge@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #64

                                    @mattblaze

                                    "Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on."

                                    Anyone who complains about artists using this site to sell their creations needs to be blocked by everyone.

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                                    • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                                      @CStamp I think social media has made it too easy for people to share their opinion, and some people don't stop to think if it's wanted.

                                      I made this as a bit of a joke, but at the same time, maybe we do need more friction?

                                      https://static.stefanbohacek.com/mansplaining/

                                      @mattblaze

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                                      #65

                                      @stefan You're so real for making these things, the Fediverse is a better place thanks to your work.

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                                      • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                        Got another mastoscold yelling at me for "using the platform to promote" my photos.

                                        For the record, I don't generally sell my photos, here or anywhere else. But even if I did, I fail to see why that would be a problem.

                                        Preventing artists from making a living is a strange hill to want to die on.

                                        knowprose@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #66

                                        @mattblaze well. I want to see photos.

                                        Share away. 🙃

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                                        • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                          @stefan @c_dan4th yep. I personally know several prominent artists, authors, and entertainers who were driven away from here by people enforcing these made up rules. The thinking (to the extent there’s actual thinking happening here) is that anyone who had a large following on twitter was - by definition - part of the problem with twitter.

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                                          #67

                                          @mattblaze @stefan @c_dan4th SPAMming relentlessly is toxic: gently telling people what you are up to (even involving money) is generally not, IMHO. But distinguishing the two is nuanced and subjective, and to some extent in the eye of each beholder.

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