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  • ruari@velocipederider.comR ruari@velocipederider.com

    Here is a fun thing. I work for Vivaldi Browser. Load any of our websites and you see no cookie banner and no mention of partners.

    https://vivaldi.com

    "But wait" you say, "didn't those terrible Europeans mandate the cookie banner!?"

    No, no they did not. We do not need a cookie banner because we are not selling all your shit to every company under the sun.

    Also those sites with cookie banners are just doing malicious compliance. This was never about the EU requiring cookie banners!

    ruari@velocipederider.comR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #12

    The one wierd trick to not having a cookie banner is… wait for it… Do not sell out your users!

    Who knew!?

    ruari@velocipederider.comR hodgesc@mas.toH davidculley@hachyderm.ioD 3 Replies Last reply
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    • ruari@velocipederider.comR ruari@velocipederider.com

      The one wierd trick to not having a cookie banner is… wait for it… Do not sell out your users!

      Who knew!?

      ruari@velocipederider.comR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #13

      Apparently the Fediverse actually did know because guess what, whenever I visit an instance I am also not asked to click through a cookie banner. Again, SO WEIRD!

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      • ruari@velocipederider.comR ruari@velocipederider.com

        Here is a fun thing. I work for Vivaldi Browser. Load any of our websites and you see no cookie banner and no mention of partners.

        https://vivaldi.com

        "But wait" you say, "didn't those terrible Europeans mandate the cookie banner!?"

        No, no they did not. We do not need a cookie banner because we are not selling all your shit to every company under the sun.

        Also those sites with cookie banners are just doing malicious compliance. This was never about the EU requiring cookie banners!

        craignicol@glasgow.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #14

        @ruari the bit the companies don't say is that EU requires informed consent to share your data.

        Cookie banners are a deliberately poor implementation for collecting consent. And many of them are not compliant because they don't inform.

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        • ruari@velocipederider.comR ruari@velocipederider.com

          Also I just switched off JS and read your fucking article anyway. What you and your partners gonna do about that? 🤪

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          #15
          @ruari

          they care about your privacy, that's why they're keeping it private between them and all their partners.
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          • wishgranter14@poa.stW wishgranter14@poa.st
            @ruari

            they care about your privacy, that's why they're keeping it private between them and all their partners.
            ruari@velocipederider.comR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #16

            @wishgranter14 Ah yes, of course. How silly I am. 🤣

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            • ruari@velocipederider.comR ruari@velocipederider.com

              In the real world still, if a person says to you, "This is my partner", that basically means something like, "If you trust me, you can trust them" and/or "this person can speak on my behalf because they know me really well".

              But online "partner" apparently now just means "a collection of companies whose names I could not even recount without looking them up in a database or spreadsheet I have somewhere".

              leeloo@c.imL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #17

              @ruari
              "These are my partners, and if you trust me, you can trust them".

              "Either way, you fucked up by trusting any of us".

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              • ruari@velocipederider.comR ruari@velocipederider.com

                I only share my economy with one person and my highest level of trust is with that same person. It's my wife. She is the one person in this world I would give the label "partner".

                Apparently I am holding myself back. I need to collect a few more thousand partners.

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                #18

                @ruari@velocipederider.com you just have to use abstinence-based sex education’s definition of “partner”

                (for those unaware: “when you have sex with someone, you’ve had sex with everyone they’ve ever had sex with, and everyone that those people have ever had sex with, so on, and so on”)

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                • ruari@velocipederider.comR ruari@velocipederider.com

                  The one wierd trick to not having a cookie banner is… wait for it… Do not sell out your users!

                  Who knew!?

                  hodgesc@mas.toH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #19

                  @ruari My sole public-facing website is a GPX file visualiser. When I made it public I added a privacy statement:

                  "Privacy: I don't set any cookies, or store any data. All processing is done in your browser so I have no access to your routes "

                  It's easy, unless you come from the position that screwing fractional cents out of every page load is a business model

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                  • leeloo@c.imL leeloo@c.im

                    @ruari
                    "These are my partners, and if you trust me, you can trust them".

                    "Either way, you fucked up by trusting any of us".

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                    #20

                    @leeloo THIS

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                    • bhtooefr@snack.socialB bhtooefr@snack.social

                      @ruari@velocipederider.com you just have to use abstinence-based sex education’s definition of “partner”

                      (for those unaware: “when you have sex with someone, you’ve had sex with everyone they’ve ever had sex with, and everyone that those people have ever had sex with, so on, and so on”)

                      ruari@velocipederider.comR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #21

                      @bhtooefr That is some fucked up logic but ok. 🤣

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                      • hodgesc@mas.toH hodgesc@mas.to

                        @ruari My sole public-facing website is a GPX file visualiser. When I made it public I added a privacy statement:

                        "Privacy: I don't set any cookies, or store any data. All processing is done in your browser so I have no access to your routes "

                        It's easy, unless you come from the position that screwing fractional cents out of every page load is a business model

                        ruari@velocipederider.comR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #22

                        @HodgesC Exactly this!

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                        • ruari@velocipederider.comR ruari@velocipederider.com

                          "We care about your privacy!"

                          Us and our ONE THOUSAND, FIVE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FOUR "partners". Hah ha!

                          Also fuck off!

                          nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #23

                          @ruari Wow... I've seen a lot on these things, but... Wow...

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                          • ruari@velocipederider.comR ruari@velocipederider.com

                            Here is a fun thing. I work for Vivaldi Browser. Load any of our websites and you see no cookie banner and no mention of partners.

                            https://vivaldi.com

                            "But wait" you say, "didn't those terrible Europeans mandate the cookie banner!?"

                            No, no they did not. We do not need a cookie banner because we are not selling all your shit to every company under the sun.

                            Also those sites with cookie banners are just doing malicious compliance. This was never about the EU requiring cookie banners!

                            shadowfals@toot.catS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #24

                            @ruari that's nice, sincerely.

                            Related question: in Firefox and derivatives, I can look at the Ublock filter on each page to choose between links. If one webpage has 85 elements blocked, a second with similar info or capability has 12, and a third has zero, then I'd recommend the third in conversations. Because not everyone's using Vivaldi, is there a way to see what on a page was blocked by it?

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                            • bhtooefr@snack.socialB bhtooefr@snack.social

                              @ruari@velocipederider.com you just have to use abstinence-based sex education’s definition of “partner”

                              (for those unaware: “when you have sex with someone, you’ve had sex with everyone they’ve ever had sex with, and everyone that those people have ever had sex with, so on, and so on”)

                              krnlg@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #25

                              @bhtooefr
                              I feel like that's basically how it works when it comes to data privacy. Maybe those abstinence folks would do better with a career change as privacy advocates!
                              @ruari

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                              • ruari@velocipederider.comR ruari@velocipederider.com

                                "We care about your privacy!"

                                Us and our ONE THOUSAND, FIVE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FOUR "partners". Hah ha!

                                Also fuck off!

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                                #26

                                @ruari @Binder see also the nonsense that is "legitimate interest"

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                                • ruari@velocipederider.comR ruari@velocipederider.com

                                  "We care about your privacy!"

                                  Us and our ONE THOUSAND, FIVE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FOUR "partners". Hah ha!

                                  Also fuck off!

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                                  @ruari you got me beat!!

                                  https://corteximplant.com/@zeyus/115654621061020974

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                                  • ruari@velocipederider.comR ruari@velocipederider.com

                                    The one wierd trick to not having a cookie banner is… wait for it… Do not sell out your users!

                                    Who knew!?

                                    davidculley@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #28

                                    @ruari If you don't surveil and sell your visitors, then you don't need cookie banners. It's very simple.

                                    The only ones who don't seem to get this very simple fact are the tech bros trained by laissez-faire capitalists to hate the EU for daring to regulate their privacy invasions.

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