Is it just me, or is the Open Source communities at large at a sort of crossroad?
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Is it just me, or is the Open Source communities at large at a sort of crossroad?
Latest being #FrameworkLaptop either siding with the fascists or at least willfully ignoring the implications of their partnerships. Following on the heels of the #RubyGem split.
Is it (finally) a realization that just because it is OpenSource, it is not necessarily a good thing
️- a stand if you will? Or is it just a small defiant push that will be forgotten tomorrow? -
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Is it just me, or is the Open Source communities at large at a sort of crossroad?
Latest being #FrameworkLaptop either siding with the fascists or at least willfully ignoring the implications of their partnerships. Following on the heels of the #RubyGem split.
Is it (finally) a realization that just because it is OpenSource, it is not necessarily a good thing
️- a stand if you will? Or is it just a small defiant push that will be forgotten tomorrow?For those needing context on the Framework thing - look here: https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986/14
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Is it just me, or is the Open Source communities at large at a sort of crossroad?
Latest being #FrameworkLaptop either siding with the fascists or at least willfully ignoring the implications of their partnerships. Following on the heels of the #RubyGem split.
Is it (finally) a realization that just because it is OpenSource, it is not necessarily a good thing
️- a stand if you will? Or is it just a small defiant push that will be forgotten tomorrow?@tofticles Der er idioter over alt. Også i Free/Open source software.
Alt efter graden af idioti og had kan man med forskellige projekter overveje om
- man vil bruge dem
- man vil støtte dem (med penge eller opbakning)
- man vil undgå demJeg har ikke helt læst op på hverken ruby-balladen eller hyprland. Men jeg har generelt tiltro til administratorerne hos freedesktop.org, så jeg kommer nok til at undgå hyprland, lige som jeg også kommer til at undgå x11libre.
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@tofticles Der er idioter over alt. Også i Free/Open source software.
Alt efter graden af idioti og had kan man med forskellige projekter overveje om
- man vil bruge dem
- man vil støtte dem (med penge eller opbakning)
- man vil undgå demJeg har ikke helt læst op på hverken ruby-balladen eller hyprland. Men jeg har generelt tiltro til administratorerne hos freedesktop.org, så jeg kommer nok til at undgå hyprland, lige som jeg også kommer til at undgå x11libre.
@svuorela Ja, helt sikkert - vi har et tilsyneladende uudtømmeligt lager af idioter.
Når det er hhv. stifteren eller forperson, der er eklatant idiot, så skal der godt nok være meget gode argumenter for ikke at ramme i 'undgå'-kassen.
Og alle idioter er ikke født ens, så der er helt sikkert gradsforskelle.
Alt det sagt, så virker det for mig, som om folk tager mere aktiv stilling nu?
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@svuorela Ja, helt sikkert - vi har et tilsyneladende uudtømmeligt lager af idioter.
Når det er hhv. stifteren eller forperson, der er eklatant idiot, så skal der godt nok være meget gode argumenter for ikke at ramme i 'undgå'-kassen.
Og alle idioter er ikke født ens, så der er helt sikkert gradsforskelle.
Alt det sagt, så virker det for mig, som om folk tager mere aktiv stilling nu?
@tofticles Jo. Der er helt klart sket noget i løbet af dette kalenderår. Det grunder nok især i 'det der på den anden side af atlanten'...
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For those needing context on the Framework thing - look here: https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986/14
@tofticles Og især det her undrer mig. Framework laptops har især været store hos folk der netop tager et politisk valg med deres IT...
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@tofticles Og især det her undrer mig. Framework laptops har især været store hos folk der netop tager et politisk valg med deres IT...
@svuorela Ja... Det virker som en virkelig god måde at fjerne 50%+ af dit kundesegment...
Læs også: Tonedøv.
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@tofticles The open source communities has always glorified the strong project leader and (with a few exceptions) minimized talking about the non-technical impact of projects.
For some years I have seen a slow but steady push to challenge this glorification (or even sanctification in the case of RMS). That is not going to just run out.
But combined with a general more divisive tribal political environment and a more connected world it is harder to hide your non-technical identity. This makes everything more explosive.
This have the potential for burning out the "good people" and just have the leave the technical community (as it have ever been the case for women and minorities)
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Is it just me, or is the Open Source communities at large at a sort of crossroad?
Latest being #FrameworkLaptop either siding with the fascists or at least willfully ignoring the implications of their partnerships. Following on the heels of the #RubyGem split.
Is it (finally) a realization that just because it is OpenSource, it is not necessarily a good thing
️- a stand if you will? Or is it just a small defiant push that will be forgotten tomorrow?@tofticles The open source communities has always glorified the strong project leader and (with a few exceptions) minimized talking about the non-technical impact of projects.
For some years I have seen a slow but steady push to challenge this glorification (or even sanctification in the case of RMS). That is not going to just run out.
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But combined with a general more divisive tribal political environment and a more connected world it is harder to hide your non-technical identity. This makes everything more explosive.
This have the potential for burning out the "good people" and just have the leave the technical community (as it have ever been the case for women and minorities)
@pmakholm Let me make sure I follow your argument:
You're saying that the divisiveness risks burning out the (non-fascist/non-divisive) maintainers/developers? As in - people asking them to not support/take a stand against the problematic projects? Or am I misunderstanding you?
As far as I see it, currently, it is the problematic people driving out the 'good' people - but more in open view than before, perhaps. Emboldened, somehow by the current political climate.
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@pmakholm Let me make sure I follow your argument:
You're saying that the divisiveness risks burning out the (non-fascist/non-divisive) maintainers/developers? As in - people asking them to not support/take a stand against the problematic projects? Or am I misunderstanding you?
As far as I see it, currently, it is the problematic people driving out the 'good' people - but more in open view than before, perhaps. Emboldened, somehow by the current political climate.
@tofticles I think my argument is close to as you see it.
You call it "getting driven out", I call it "getting burned out". I don't feel strongly about the choice of words, but "getting driven out" might better show the active part.
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@tofticles I think my argument is close to as you see it.
You call it "getting driven out", I call it "getting burned out". I don't feel strongly about the choice of words, but "getting driven out" might better show the active part.
@pmakholm Thank you for the clarification
. I generally think we align pretty well in these matters, but wanted to make sure I wasn't assuming.
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Is it just me, or is the Open Source communities at large at a sort of crossroad?
Latest being #FrameworkLaptop either siding with the fascists or at least willfully ignoring the implications of their partnerships. Following on the heels of the #RubyGem split.
Is it (finally) a realization that just because it is OpenSource, it is not necessarily a good thing
️- a stand if you will? Or is it just a small defiant push that will be forgotten tomorrow?@tofticles with open source you can atleast fork the code and have your own project.
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@tofticles with open source you can atleast fork the code and have your own project.
@mshdk Oh, for sure! This was not a criticism of (F)OSS as such. For me it is still, by far, the better model for creating software.
