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  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

    if youve ever been burned because some asshole in HR shitcanned your resume because "you didnt go to the right college" or you couldnt score a gig because "you refused to get a cissp", or if youve ever ragequit a job because you were just "the token security person who was only there to fulfill a checkbox, and nobody listened to you and you felt like your job didnt matter" then you should want it to burn down too

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    #12

    @Viss

    i've spent most of my career knowing i'd need to get my resume to the hiring manager and bypass HR if i wanted to have any chance of not getting "screened". most HR spend no more effort trying to understand position requirements than netflix spent on it's "recommended" algorithms.

    LLM resume reviews will be that bad or worse. burn it all down.

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    • jackryder@infosec.exchangeJ jackryder@infosec.exchange

      @krypt3ia @Viss Don't you think we will experience some benefit for the sheer speed at which these systems fail?

      The "dot com" bubble-burst seems annual at this stage and I don't think a lot of young people are looking at the industry with quite the same wide-eyed wonder they did in the past. We've got decades of bitter and jaded "consultant" trying to carve out a living since companies have "trimmed the fat". It's dangerous to install anything using npm and even curl is closing up their bounty board due to the sheer swell of AI-slop.

      Enshittification is a tidal wave, but at least it'll be quick? Maybe?

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      #13

      @jackryder @Viss Time will tell

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      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

        nobody confident in their own abilities is panicking

        https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/23/claude_code_security_panic/?td=rt-3a

        the people who are panicking are signaling.

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        #14

        @Viss Panic! At the Infosec?

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        • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

          @Viss Panic! At the Infosec?

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          #15

          @catsalad surely it would be (kernel)panic at the cisco 😄

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          • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

            @Viss Panic! At the Infosec?

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            #16

            @catsalad @Viss
            🎵 I chime in with a "Haven't you people ever heard of commenting your goddamn code? No..."

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            • jackryder@infosec.exchangeJ jackryder@infosec.exchange

              @catsalad @Viss
              🎵 I chime in with a "Haven't you people ever heard of commenting your goddamn code? No..."

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              #17

              @jackryder @catsalad dat fallout boy doe

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              • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                @catsalad surely it would be (kernel)panic at the cisco 😄

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                #18

                @Viss @catsalad y'all write jokes, not tragedies.

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                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                  @jackryder @catsalad dat fallout boy doe

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                  #19

                  @Viss @catsalad
                  Wrong Fallout but still kind of cool.

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                  • insidertreat@infosec.exchangeI insidertreat@infosec.exchange

                    @Viss @catsalad y'all write jokes, not tragedies.

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                    #20

                    @InsiderTreat @Viss @catsalad

                    Thnks fr th Xmms 😆

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                    • krypt3ia@infosec.exchangeK krypt3ia@infosec.exchange

                      @Viss Here is where you should be concerned though, the idiots in charge who do not understand how LLM's work, or how well they work, or, more to the point, don't work.

                      It's all been a sales campaign to sell the notion that they don't need people. Just replace them with an AI.

                      It's gonna take some time before the gen pop has the large enough fails from doing so, that they will wake the fuck up.

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                      #21

                      @krypt3ia @Viss That's my prediction: intense executive pressure is going to lead to a lot of budget being blown on vendors, and then people who're being asked to do more with less will run the risk of being scapegoated when it doesn't work as well as it did in the demo.

                      Not a new story in infosec but it's cranked up to 11 this time…

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                      • acdha@code4lib.socialA acdha@code4lib.social

                        @krypt3ia @Viss That's my prediction: intense executive pressure is going to lead to a lot of budget being blown on vendors, and then people who're being asked to do more with less will run the risk of being scapegoated when it doesn't work as well as it did in the demo.

                        Not a new story in infosec but it's cranked up to 11 this time…

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                        #22

                        @acdha @Viss Ayup. I also think there is a fair amount of automation that is happening as well that leads to less need for headcount, but this AI shit is out of hand.

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                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                          nobody confident in their own abilities is panicking

                          https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/23/claude_code_security_panic/?td=rt-3a

                          the people who are panicking are signaling.

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                          #23

                          @Viss this is the "appsec is gonna save cybersecurity" shit all over again.

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                          • acdha@code4lib.socialA acdha@code4lib.social

                            @krypt3ia @Viss That's my prediction: intense executive pressure is going to lead to a lot of budget being blown on vendors, and then people who're being asked to do more with less will run the risk of being scapegoated when it doesn't work as well as it did in the demo.

                            Not a new story in infosec but it's cranked up to 11 this time…

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                            #24

                            @acdha @krypt3ia my one hope is that all the yolo types, the ones who lied on their resumes to get infosec jobs, who cannot function without having to google everything or rely on a chatbot to do their jobs for them will have to admit defeat and crawl back to starbucks or wherever it is they came from

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                            • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                              @Viss this is the "appsec is gonna save cybersecurity" shit all over again.

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                              #25

                              @Viss 5-10 years ago, companies that did appsec assessments were beating themselves off about how writing better code was gonna eliminate cybersecurity and yet, we're still here.

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                              • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                                @Viss this is the "appsec is gonna save cybersecurity" shit all over again.

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                                #26

                                @da_667 the beatings will continue as long as people who dont know shit about computers continue to find themselves in leadership positions where they make the rules about how computers work and who can do what with them

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                                • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                                  @Viss 5-10 years ago, companies that did appsec assessments were beating themselves off about how writing better code was gonna eliminate cybersecurity and yet, we're still here.

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                                  #27

                                  @da_667 heh, i remember a bunch of folks saying how "solid technical controls will eliminate phishing"

                                  then i remember saying "2fa will eliminate phishing"

                                  then "totp will eliminate phishing"

                                  then "zero trust will eliminate phishing"

                                  then "okta will kill phishing"

                                  then "facial recogition and fingerprints will eliminate phishing"

                                  no - as long as you can social a human into clicking shit, phishing will exist.

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                                  • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                                    @Viss 5-10 years ago, companies that did appsec assessments were beating themselves off about how writing better code was gonna eliminate cybersecurity and yet, we're still here.

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                                    @da_667 @Viss
                                    More LOC means fewer vulns, right?

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                                    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                      @acdha @krypt3ia my one hope is that all the yolo types, the ones who lied on their resumes to get infosec jobs, who cannot function without having to google everything or rely on a chatbot to do their jobs for them will have to admit defeat and crawl back to starbucks or wherever it is they came from

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                                      #29

                                      @Viss @acdha There is nuance to be had here though. Sure there was a push for everyone to get into the cybers for the six figures, but, on the other side of it, there is just SO FUCKING MUCH to this field that no one can be a master of it all.

                                      So, using Google is a feature that we all use. I can't vouch for the lying on resume's but, I think we have a problem in our community of being all the "smartest one's in the room all the fucking time"

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                                      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                        @da_667 heh, i remember a bunch of folks saying how "solid technical controls will eliminate phishing"

                                        then i remember saying "2fa will eliminate phishing"

                                        then "totp will eliminate phishing"

                                        then "zero trust will eliminate phishing"

                                        then "okta will kill phishing"

                                        then "facial recogition and fingerprints will eliminate phishing"

                                        no - as long as you can social a human into clicking shit, phishing will exist.

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                                        #30

                                        @Viss @da_667 Maybe if engineers were actually engineers and didn't just import * from * for everything including OSs then there wouldn't be such an attack surface.

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                                        • krypt3ia@infosec.exchangeK krypt3ia@infosec.exchange

                                          @Viss @acdha There is nuance to be had here though. Sure there was a push for everyone to get into the cybers for the six figures, but, on the other side of it, there is just SO FUCKING MUCH to this field that no one can be a master of it all.

                                          So, using Google is a feature that we all use. I can't vouch for the lying on resume's but, I think we have a problem in our community of being all the "smartest one's in the room all the fucking time"

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                                          #31

                                          @Viss @acdha This also goes for the AI equivalent of google searching.

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