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  • vkc@linuxmom.netV This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Friendly reminder that Mastodon, et al is federated, which means you almost certainly won't see every reply on a thread.

    Let's say you're reading a post from "reasonable.domain". And someone from "cesspool.domain" replies to it. If your instance blocked "cesspool.domain", you won't see that reply.

    This effect minimizes the appearance of harm. It can be a blessing, but it also means you won't always see the problems inherent on these platforms.

    fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF mochsner@mstdn.socialM sashin@veganism.socialS beachbum@mastodon.sdf.orgB gabe@mastodon.vanzanten.beG 5 Replies Last reply
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    • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

      Friendly reminder that Mastodon, et al is federated, which means you almost certainly won't see every reply on a thread.

      Let's say you're reading a post from "reasonable.domain". And someone from "cesspool.domain" replies to it. If your instance blocked "cesspool.domain", you won't see that reply.

      This effect minimizes the appearance of harm. It can be a blessing, but it also means you won't always see the problems inherent on these platforms.

      fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
      fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @vkc there's a
      seperate problem where you might not see a reply even if it has not been blocked; the latest issue of the mastodon software looks to fix that one.

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      • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

        Friendly reminder that Mastodon, et al is federated, which means you almost certainly won't see every reply on a thread.

        Let's say you're reading a post from "reasonable.domain". And someone from "cesspool.domain" replies to it. If your instance blocked "cesspool.domain", you won't see that reply.

        This effect minimizes the appearance of harm. It can be a blessing, but it also means you won't always see the problems inherent on these platforms.

        mochsner@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
        mochsner@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @vkc as an admin of an instance, are there automated instance blocks you can subscribe to? That seems like a useful API / service offered to self hosters

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        • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

          @vkc there's a
          seperate problem where you might not see a reply even if it has not been blocked; the latest issue of the mastodon software looks to fix that one.

          cptbutton@dice.campC This user is from outside of this forum
          cptbutton@dice.campC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @fishidwardrobe @vkc

          You can at least sometimes work around this by clicking on the three dots and choosing "Open original page", at least on the web interface.

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          • mochsner@mstdn.socialM mochsner@mstdn.social

            @vkc as an admin of an instance, are there automated instance blocks you can subscribe to? That seems like a useful API / service offered to self hosters

            alexisbushnell@toot.walesA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @mochsner @vkc yes, people like @iftas offer (or did, @jaz can tell you if it's still running) a blocklist of domains that have been agreed by various other admins to be awful.

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            • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

              Friendly reminder that Mastodon, et al is federated, which means you almost certainly won't see every reply on a thread.

              Let's say you're reading a post from "reasonable.domain". And someone from "cesspool.domain" replies to it. If your instance blocked "cesspool.domain", you won't see that reply.

              This effect minimizes the appearance of harm. It can be a blessing, but it also means you won't always see the problems inherent on these platforms.

              sashin@veganism.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
              sashin@veganism.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @vkc I feel like this exact problem has been brought up with the issue of racism being made invisible, creating the impression among people on other servers that it wasn't existent on the fediverse.

              It's as if gaslighting was built into the system by accident. That is; there's somethings some people can see but others can't.

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              • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                Friendly reminder that Mastodon, et al is federated, which means you almost certainly won't see every reply on a thread.

                Let's say you're reading a post from "reasonable.domain". And someone from "cesspool.domain" replies to it. If your instance blocked "cesspool.domain", you won't see that reply.

                This effect minimizes the appearance of harm. It can be a blessing, but it also means you won't always see the problems inherent on these platforms.

                beachbum@mastodon.sdf.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
                beachbum@mastodon.sdf.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @vkc I only use open source, Mastodon and Loops. No need to know what’s said on bird site or bs.

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                • beachbum@mastodon.sdf.orgB beachbum@mastodon.sdf.org

                  @vkc I only use open source, Mastodon and Loops. No need to know what’s said on bird site or bs.

                  vkc@linuxmom.netV This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @Beachbum this happens on Mastodon. It's what happens between instances as a result of federation/defederation.

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                  • alexisbushnell@toot.walesA alexisbushnell@toot.wales

                    @mochsner @vkc yes, people like @iftas offer (or did, @jaz can tell you if it's still running) a blocklist of domains that have been agreed by various other admins to be awful.

                    iftas@mastodon.iftas.orgI This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @alexisbushnell @mochsner @vkc

                    https://about.iftas.org/library/denylist-resources/

                    and

                    https://about.iftas.org/library/denylist-management-tools/

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                    • sashin@veganism.socialS sashin@veganism.social

                      @vkc I feel like this exact problem has been brought up with the issue of racism being made invisible, creating the impression among people on other servers that it wasn't existent on the fediverse.

                      It's as if gaslighting was built into the system by accident. That is; there's somethings some people can see but others can't.

                      cyberwitch@goingdark.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                      cyberwitch@goingdark.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @sashin @vkc like maybe if there could be a "comment is from a blocked instance" banner, that could be a helpful feature. Not showing the comment itself but that a potentially unsavory comment exists. That could at last grant some transparency without having to dunk yourself in the cesspool.

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                      • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                        Friendly reminder that Mastodon, et al is federated, which means you almost certainly won't see every reply on a thread.

                        Let's say you're reading a post from "reasonable.domain". And someone from "cesspool.domain" replies to it. If your instance blocked "cesspool.domain", you won't see that reply.

                        This effect minimizes the appearance of harm. It can be a blessing, but it also means you won't always see the problems inherent on these platforms.

                        gabe@mastodon.vanzanten.beG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @vkc Running my own instance to always keep my own data. What I don't like is that I can only follow users of other instances, but not a feed of another instance or a hashtag. Unless, I would join a relay but then get all those messages send to my instance which might overload it. So I just search for interesting people to follow on a lot of instances.

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