#BREAKING:
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“Judge James Boasberg has found probable cause that the #Trump administration acted in contempt of court when officials last month defied his order to turn two planes around carrying alleged Venezuelan gang members to El Salvador.
"Court ult determines that the Government’s actions on that day demonstrate a willful disregard for its Order, sufficient for the Court to conclude that probable cause exists to find the Govt in criminal contempt”
https://thereport.be/article/?app=breaking&u=https%3A%2F%2Fabcnews.link%2FaRYR2oW
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“Judge James Boasberg has found probable cause that the #Trump administration acted in contempt of court when officials last month defied his order to turn two planes around carrying alleged Venezuelan gang members to El Salvador.
"Court ult determines that the Government’s actions on that day demonstrate a willful disregard for its Order, sufficient for the Court to conclude that probable cause exists to find the Govt in criminal contempt”
https://thereport.be/article/?app=breaking&u=https%3A%2F%2Fabcnews.link%2FaRYR2oW
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@GottaLaff great...what is the consequence? That's the problem. I am jailed he gets a meh.
@debrashannon My god, take the win.
Klasfeld:
Judge Boasberg will give the government an opportunity to "purge such contempt."
"If they opt not to do so, the Court will proceed to identify the contemnor(s) and refer the matter for prosecution."
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@debrashannon My god, take the win.
Klasfeld:
Judge Boasberg will give the government an opportunity to "purge such contempt."
"If they opt not to do so, the Court will proceed to identify the contemnor(s) and refer the matter for prosecution."
@GottaLaff but without a consequence the win goes to another court and they dismiss it. That has been a continual problem. Without that it happens over and over.
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@debrashannon My god, take the win.
Klasfeld:
Judge Boasberg will give the government an opportunity to "purge such contempt."
"If they opt not to do so, the Court will proceed to identify the contemnor(s) and refer the matter for prosecution."
!!! There has been a lot of bad news lately and there will be more in the future. We are in the midst of a long struggle and it will not be over anytime soon. But, let's take a war analogy. If you sent a platoon out to destroy a strategic bridge and they come back having completed their mission, you don't complain that the enemy is just going to cross the river somewhere else. You congratulate them, and put your heads together on how to win the next skirmish. -
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!!! There has been a lot of bad news lately and there will be more in the future. We are in the midst of a long struggle and it will not be over anytime soon. But, let's take a war analogy. If you sent a platoon out to destroy a strategic bridge and they come back having completed their mission, you don't complain that the enemy is just going to cross the river somewhere else. You congratulate them, and put your heads together on how to win the next skirmish.
@mastodonmigration @GottaLaff @debrashannon
This and then this again.
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@GottaLaff but without a consequence the win goes to another court and they dismiss it. That has been a continual problem. Without that it happens over and over.
@debrashannon @GottaLaff
This is a first step to actual consequences happening, and by judicial standards it will be happening very quickly. The government is going to be prosecuted by the court, because a judge already has substantial evidence that a crime was committed.This is part of the system working as it should to protect the rights of people in the US. And it's how we stop the export of random immigrants to foreign prisons. That is massively important.
The fight still might be lost at a later stage, but this is the first step of that not happening. And even corrupt members of the Supreme Court have been reluctant to abrogate judicial authority, and are actively defending judges who get threatened by the Trump administration.
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@debrashannon @GottaLaff
This is a first step to actual consequences happening, and by judicial standards it will be happening very quickly. The government is going to be prosecuted by the court, because a judge already has substantial evidence that a crime was committed.This is part of the system working as it should to protect the rights of people in the US. And it's how we stop the export of random immigrants to foreign prisons. That is massively important.
The fight still might be lost at a later stage, but this is the first step of that not happening. And even corrupt members of the Supreme Court have been reluctant to abrogate judicial authority, and are actively defending judges who get threatened by the Trump administration.
@me_valentijn @debrashannon @GottaLaff Even *WITH* an appointed attorney, this becomes a Federal criminal prosecution, for which the President has unilateral power to pardon anyone charged or convicted. It's an illusory "win" that has almost zero likelihood of leading anywhere.
We keep ascribing importance to impotent findings and rulings like this. That's not helping anyone or anything except to make someone feel good about something that's not really there.
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@me_valentijn @debrashannon @GottaLaff Even *WITH* an appointed attorney, this becomes a Federal criminal prosecution, for which the President has unilateral power to pardon anyone charged or convicted. It's an illusory "win" that has almost zero likelihood of leading anywhere.
We keep ascribing importance to impotent findings and rulings like this. That's not helping anyone or anything except to make someone feel good about something that's not really there.
@snarky I couldn't disagree more.
Each win spotlights and weakens, encourages more protests, I could go on.
Trump wasn't jailed, but he is a convicted felon 34x over. That isn't nothing.
"Feeling good about something" is what gives people the will to keep going and to keep up the pressure. Pressure works.
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@snarky I couldn't disagree more.
Each win spotlights and weakens, encourages more protests, I could go on.
Trump wasn't jailed, but he is a convicted felon 34x over. That isn't nothing.
"Feeling good about something" is what gives people the will to keep going and to keep up the pressure. Pressure works.
@GottaLaff @me_valentijn @debrashannon
Back in law school, it was hammered into our heads that without a remedy, there is no actual legal wrong.
Trump was convicted -- so what? He didn't go to jail and still won the election. No consequence = no progress. If anything, that further degrades confidence in the system.
I appreciate that you want to see and present the silver lining in every piece of good news, that's fine. That's your thing.
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@GottaLaff @me_valentijn @debrashannon
Back in law school, it was hammered into our heads that without a remedy, there is no actual legal wrong.
Trump was convicted -- so what? He didn't go to jail and still won the election. No consequence = no progress. If anything, that further degrades confidence in the system.
I appreciate that you want to see and present the silver lining in every piece of good news, that's fine. That's your thing.
@snarky It's not
"my thing," it's simply truth. There is good news in each of these. I guess YOUR thing is to doom and whine and refuse to acknowledge that.The convictions were meaningful, despite no prison time, as I said.
Each good ruling helps, not just legally, and I've explained how in post after post, year after year.,
You're part of the problem. Your negativity suppresses confidence & enthusiasm to keep pressuring/protesting.
Bite me.
