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  • tinker@infosec.exchangeT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Whew! Careful out there today.

    There's a lot of people in my timeline boosting and posting misinformation (and disinformation).

    (eg that McAfee *unwittingly* posted an AI image of a woman with three hands - even though that was the *point* of the ad campaign... selling AI detection.

    or that Madonna has rejected a $500 million dollar deal from Elon Musk)

    Everyone can fall for misinfo. If you read a claim - ESPECIALLY IF YOU AGREE WITH IT OR GET JOY FROM IT - please verify it before you post or boost it.

    Dont boost until you validate.
    Dont boost until you validate.
    Dont boost until you validate.

    (and unboost or delete the post if you later find it to be fake)

    Posting this as a personal reminder. I make mistakes too and have accidentally boosted false info in the past. Bonus points for anyone who sends this post back to me in the future when I make that mistake again 😅

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    • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

      Whew! Careful out there today.

      There's a lot of people in my timeline boosting and posting misinformation (and disinformation).

      (eg that McAfee *unwittingly* posted an AI image of a woman with three hands - even though that was the *point* of the ad campaign... selling AI detection.

      or that Madonna has rejected a $500 million dollar deal from Elon Musk)

      Everyone can fall for misinfo. If you read a claim - ESPECIALLY IF YOU AGREE WITH IT OR GET JOY FROM IT - please verify it before you post or boost it.

      Dont boost until you validate.
      Dont boost until you validate.
      Dont boost until you validate.

      (and unboost or delete the post if you later find it to be fake)

      Posting this as a personal reminder. I make mistakes too and have accidentally boosted false info in the past. Bonus points for anyone who sends this post back to me in the future when I make that mistake again 😅

      jackel23gr@mastodon.worldJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @tinker The one that got me was last year. A false scan of a newspaper clipping about tRump's mother publicly stating his inadequacies as a government leader.

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      • jackel23gr@mastodon.worldJ jackel23gr@mastodon.world

        @tinker The one that got me was last year. A false scan of a newspaper clipping about tRump's mother publicly stating his inadequacies as a government leader.

        tinker@infosec.exchangeT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @jackel23gr - Ooof! Yeah. The ones that really pander to our hopes get the deepest hooks.

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        • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

          @jackel23gr - Ooof! Yeah. The ones that really pander to our hopes get the deepest hooks.

          courtcan@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @tinker @jackel23gr Yup. I remember that one. I boosted it, saw people questioning it, then went to do the research. It's so infuriating when something so validating turns out to be false. Infuriating, embarrassing...and destabilizing. "What other things have I believed and shared that aren't based in reality?" The clannish lizard brain does not want to accept being wrong.

          Ftr I unboosted that one. 😉

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          • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

            @tinker @jackel23gr Yup. I remember that one. I boosted it, saw people questioning it, then went to do the research. It's so infuriating when something so validating turns out to be false. Infuriating, embarrassing...and destabilizing. "What other things have I believed and shared that aren't based in reality?" The clannish lizard brain does not want to accept being wrong.

            Ftr I unboosted that one. 😉

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            #5

            @courtcan @tinker @jackel23gr what happens when you "unboost" a toot? Is is better to leave it up but leave a reply? @FediTips

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            • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

              @courtcan @tinker @jackel23gr what happens when you "unboost" a toot? Is is better to leave it up but leave a reply? @FediTips

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              #6

              @jrdepriest @courtcan @jackel23gr @FediTips - Got a response that says its better to edit the post as it sends out a notification to everyone that edited it. I like that better!

              Edit: So if you wrote the original post: edit it. If you boosted someone else's post, unboost it (to remove it from your timeline)

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              • tinker@infosec.exchangeT tinker@infosec.exchange

                @jrdepriest @courtcan @jackel23gr @FediTips - Got a response that says its better to edit the post as it sends out a notification to everyone that edited it. I like that better!

                Edit: So if you wrote the original post: edit it. If you boosted someone else's post, unboost it (to remove it from your timeline)

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                #7

                @tinker @jrdepriest @courtcan @jackel23gr

                If you unboost a toot, it disappears from your profile timeline and it disappears from the Home timelines of people who follow you (unless they have seen it boosted by someone else, or unless they follow the boosted account too).

                If it's your own post that has info you want to withdraw, it is indeed much better to edit or delete it.

                Replies are the worst way of correcting stuff because people are much less likely to see the correction in a reply.

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                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                  @tinker @jrdepriest @courtcan @jackel23gr

                  If you unboost a toot, it disappears from your profile timeline and it disappears from the Home timelines of people who follow you (unless they have seen it boosted by someone else, or unless they follow the boosted account too).

                  If it's your own post that has info you want to withdraw, it is indeed much better to edit or delete it.

                  Replies are the worst way of correcting stuff because people are much less likely to see the correction in a reply.

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                  #8

                  @FediTips @tinker @jrdepriest @courtcan @jackel23gr misinfo needs some de-boosting mechanism where you can retract a boost and notify everyone who boosted it after your boost put it in front of them. Quote posts might help, though maybe not as implemented.

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                  • enobacon@urbanists.socialE enobacon@urbanists.social

                    @FediTips @tinker @jrdepriest @courtcan @jackel23gr misinfo needs some de-boosting mechanism where you can retract a boost and notify everyone who boosted it after your boost put it in front of them. Quote posts might help, though maybe not as implemented.

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                    #9

                    @enobacon

                    You can sort of do this by unboosting, then writing a totally new post where you say "About that thing I just boosted, I unboosted it because it turns out that it's a load of rubbish. Here's more info..." or whatever.

                    It will go to the same audience that saw your boost, because they both go to your followers.

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                    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                      @enobacon

                      You can sort of do this by unboosting, then writing a totally new post where you say "About that thing I just boosted, I unboosted it because it turns out that it's a load of rubbish. Here's more info..." or whatever.

                      It will go to the same audience that saw your boost, because they both go to your followers.

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                      #10

                      @FediTips if you follow a non-trivial number of accounts and hashtags, the timeline is like a firehose, and you only see the current ~30 minutes, so many people are going to miss the correction if it's not a notification.

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                      • enobacon@urbanists.socialE enobacon@urbanists.social

                        @FediTips if you follow a non-trivial number of accounts and hashtags, the timeline is like a firehose, and you only see the current ~30 minutes, so many people are going to miss the correction if it's not a notification.

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                        #11

                        @enobacon

                        Ahhh okay, fair enough. I think quote toots would do what you're asking?

                        I think you can edit your quote-toot and the edit would trigger a notification for everyone who boosted your quote-toot.

                        (Having said that, still need to see how quoting works in the final release version though, it's still in final testing.)

                        However, that might be worse because you'd still be showing the boost and not everyone notices the quote section. Also boosts help posts rise up the trending section.

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