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So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?

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  • mho@social.heise.deM This user is from outside of this forum
    mho@social.heise.deM This user is from outside of this forum
    mho@social.heise.de
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    #1

    So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?
    That I don't know, but I can add some data: At least for @heiseonline it seems to be the opposite; the number of comments and likes keeps on growing.

    @Mastodon @SocialMedia @fediverse

    rupdecat@fediscience.orgR maxbob@det.socialM cabbage@piefed.socialC S db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comD 8 Replies Last reply
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    • mho@social.heise.deM mho@social.heise.de

      So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?
      That I don't know, but I can add some data: At least for @heiseonline it seems to be the opposite; the number of comments and likes keeps on growing.

      @Mastodon @SocialMedia @fediverse

      rupdecat@fediscience.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @mho @heiseonline @fediverse

      To be honest, I rarely look anything up on heiseonline (never commented). Simply for lack of time. Perhaps this is true for many. Many people rarely looking make some wiggly graph. Right?

      If, however, you would be plotting a year-to-year comparison per month, the plot would look even more compelling.

      The Fediverse is improving. Slowly. Not as fast as the enshittification elsewhere.

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      • mho@social.heise.deM mho@social.heise.de

        So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?
        That I don't know, but I can add some data: At least for @heiseonline it seems to be the opposite; the number of comments and likes keeps on growing.

        @Mastodon @SocialMedia @fediverse

        maxbob@det.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        maxbob@det.social
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        #3

        @mho @heiseonline @fediverse well, my fediverse timeline isn’t dying for sure! 😀
        And I always enjoy reading your stuff here and also just recently discovered some more of your colleagues here thanks to that author feature!

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        • mho@social.heise.deM mho@social.heise.de

          So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?
          That I don't know, but I can add some data: At least for @heiseonline it seems to be the opposite; the number of comments and likes keeps on growing.

          @Mastodon @SocialMedia @fediverse

          cabbage@piefed.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          There seems to be a January effect of sorts, being the highest peak of both years. Is journalism more interesting in January, are people bored in winter after Christmas, is it random, or is something else going on? Could be interesting to know. I’d love to see whether this happens again in 2026.

          My interpretation of usage trends is that the novelty is wearing off, and the people left using these sites are largely just using them normally. Less and less content is meta-discussions about being here and not being elsewhere. Of course some users leave as the novelty wears off, but enough seem to have stayed that I’m pretty optimistic it won’t go back to being a dusty corner reserved for only the biggest open source fanatics.

          Oh, and here’s the graph of comments over time, as only the first picture federated to where I’m reading from:
          The data for comments, showing an upward trend

          @rimu@piefed.social - I’m assuming this is a known bug 🙂

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          • rupdecat@fediscience.orgR rupdecat@fediscience.org

            @mho @heiseonline @fediverse

            To be honest, I rarely look anything up on heiseonline (never commented). Simply for lack of time. Perhaps this is true for many. Many people rarely looking make some wiggly graph. Right?

            If, however, you would be plotting a year-to-year comparison per month, the plot would look even more compelling.

            The Fediverse is improving. Slowly. Not as fast as the enshittification elsewhere.

            mho@social.heise.deM This user is from outside of this forum
            mho@social.heise.deM This user is from outside of this forum
            mho@social.heise.de
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            #5

            @rupdecat @heiseonline @fediverse

            I don't understand: This is a year-to-year comparison by month.

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            • mho@social.heise.deM mho@social.heise.de

              So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?
              That I don't know, but I can add some data: At least for @heiseonline it seems to be the opposite; the number of comments and likes keeps on growing.

              @Mastodon @SocialMedia @fediverse

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              schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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              #6

              I think we need to ask this question separately for the microblogging fediverse and the “threadiverse” (i.e. Lemmy-compatible communities).

              The microblogging fediverse isn’t dying, I scroll through it every day, it’s one of my main sources of news (some of which I then post on Lemmy). I wouldn’t be able to keep up with much more than what I currently get into my feed there.

              The threadiverse meanwhile could definitely use much more activity. I hope it eventually becomes a place to discuss even the most niche topics imaginable, like web forums in their era…

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              • cabbage@piefed.socialC cabbage@piefed.social

                There seems to be a January effect of sorts, being the highest peak of both years. Is journalism more interesting in January, are people bored in winter after Christmas, is it random, or is something else going on? Could be interesting to know. I’d love to see whether this happens again in 2026.

                My interpretation of usage trends is that the novelty is wearing off, and the people left using these sites are largely just using them normally. Less and less content is meta-discussions about being here and not being elsewhere. Of course some users leave as the novelty wears off, but enough seem to have stayed that I’m pretty optimistic it won’t go back to being a dusty corner reserved for only the biggest open source fanatics.

                Oh, and here’s the graph of comments over time, as only the first picture federated to where I’m reading from:
                The data for comments, showing an upward trend

                @rimu@piefed.social - I’m assuming this is a known bug 🙂

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                panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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                #7

                I wonder if it’s New Year’s resolutions to quit Reddit?

                Either way, I like it here.

                cabbage@piefed.socialC mho@social.heise.deM 2 Replies Last reply
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                • P panda_abyss@lemmy.ca

                  I wonder if it’s New Year’s resolutions to quit Reddit?

                  Either way, I like it here.

                  cabbage@piefed.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  cabbage@piefed.social
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                  #8

                  As this is a graph of comments and likes to posts by @heiseonline@social.heise.de - who don’t post to Lemmy/Piefed - it’s probably not related to Reddit. But quitting X is also a good new years resolution I guess. 🙂

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                  • S schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de

                    I think we need to ask this question separately for the microblogging fediverse and the “threadiverse” (i.e. Lemmy-compatible communities).

                    The microblogging fediverse isn’t dying, I scroll through it every day, it’s one of my main sources of news (some of which I then post on Lemmy). I wouldn’t be able to keep up with much more than what I currently get into my feed there.

                    The threadiverse meanwhile could definitely use much more activity. I hope it eventually becomes a place to discuss even the most niche topics imaginable, like web forums in their era…

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                    blaze@piefed.zip
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                    #9

                    !fedigrow@lemmy.zip tries to assess the activity levels of regular posters, and it’s a bit quiet lately sometimes indeed

                    What we can probably expect is some consolidation of inactive or barely active communities to get more activity in one place

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                    • cabbage@piefed.socialC cabbage@piefed.social

                      As this is a graph of comments and likes to posts by @heiseonline@social.heise.de - who don’t post to Lemmy/Piefed - it’s probably not related to Reddit. But quitting X is also a good new years resolution I guess. 🙂

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                      panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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                      #10

                      Huh, didn’t realize it was a cross post

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                      • P panda_abyss@lemmy.ca

                        I wonder if it’s New Year’s resolutions to quit Reddit?

                        Either way, I like it here.

                        mho@social.heise.deM This user is from outside of this forum
                        mho@social.heise.deM This user is from outside of this forum
                        mho@social.heise.de
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                        #11

                        @panda_abyss @cabbage

                        I always thought, that there's no month, where less people are on vacation, and that's why so many are reading the news.

                        For us as a tech magazine, it's also CES which is in January.

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                        • mho@social.heise.deM mho@social.heise.de

                          @panda_abyss @cabbage

                          I always thought, that there's no month, where less people are on vacation, and that's why so many are reading the news.

                          For us as a tech magazine, it's also CES which is in January.

                          cabbage@piefed.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          cabbage@piefed.social
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                          #12

                          Both are good explanations, thanks!

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                          • mho@social.heise.deM mho@social.heise.de

                            So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?
                            That I don't know, but I can add some data: At least for @heiseonline it seems to be the opposite; the number of comments and likes keeps on growing.

                            @Mastodon @SocialMedia @fediverse

                            db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comD This user is from outside of this forum
                            db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comD This user is from outside of this forum
                            db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                            #13

                            The threadiverse feels as active as usual imho. We still can’t really attract non-early adopters (i.e. privacy and FOSS enthusiasts), but the next reddit exodus is inevitable at some point.

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                            • mho@social.heise.deM mho@social.heise.de

                              So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?
                              That I don't know, but I can add some data: At least for @heiseonline it seems to be the opposite; the number of comments and likes keeps on growing.

                              @Mastodon @SocialMedia @fediverse

                              db0@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              db0@hachyderm.io
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                              #14

                              @mho @heiseonline @fediverse The lack of consistent federation between microblogging and threadiverse doesn't help either. For example on microblogging I can't see the comments from @Blaze towards @schnurrito because they were announced by the @fediverse to everyone, but mastodon just ignores it unless it's address to the OP.

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                              • mho@social.heise.deM mho@social.heise.de

                                So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?
                                That I don't know, but I can add some data: At least for @heiseonline it seems to be the opposite; the number of comments and likes keeps on growing.

                                @Mastodon @SocialMedia @fediverse

                                padeluun@digitalcourage.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @mho @heiseonline @fediverse Auch hier bei uns ist ein leichter, aber stetiger Anstieg messbar.

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                                • db0@hachyderm.ioD db0@hachyderm.io

                                  @mho @heiseonline @fediverse The lack of consistent federation between microblogging and threadiverse doesn't help either. For example on microblogging I can't see the comments from @Blaze towards @schnurrito because they were announced by the @fediverse to everyone, but mastodon just ignores it unless it's address to the OP.

                                  julian@activitypub.spaceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @db0@hachyderm.io said in So, is it getting quieter here in the #Fediverse; is it even dying?:
                                  > For example on microblogging I can’t see the comments from @Blaze towards @schnurrito because they were announced by the @fediverse to everyone,

                                  Wait, doesn’t that mean you should see it?

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                                    db0@hachyderm.io
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                                    #17

                                    @julian Yes, but if you don't follow the category, you don't see replies to other people in the same post.

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                                    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comD db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                      The threadiverse feels as active as usual imho. We still can’t really attract non-early adopters (i.e. privacy and FOSS enthusiasts), but the next reddit exodus is inevitable at some point.

                                      openstars@piefed.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      I dunno, look at all that the Musk does to X (or better yet, don’t) but then people remain stuck on that platform, held hostage by the network effect or whatever other reason. Enshittification has progressed far enough that Lemmy is not well regarded on Reddit, a fact enhanced by posts talking about it being removed. People may be cutting back on Reddit, but they do not seem to be bringing those discussions here. Perhaps people are discoursing more IRL rather than social media.

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                                      • S schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de

                                        I think we need to ask this question separately for the microblogging fediverse and the “threadiverse” (i.e. Lemmy-compatible communities).

                                        The microblogging fediverse isn’t dying, I scroll through it every day, it’s one of my main sources of news (some of which I then post on Lemmy). I wouldn’t be able to keep up with much more than what I currently get into my feed there.

                                        The threadiverse meanwhile could definitely use much more activity. I hope it eventually becomes a place to discuss even the most niche topics imaginable, like web forums in their era…

                                        samskara@sh.itjust.worksS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        Same. Mastodon is pretty good and useful. Lemmy is pretty meh.

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                                        • mho@social.heise.deM mho@social.heise.de

                                          @rupdecat @heiseonline @fediverse

                                          I don't understand: This is a year-to-year comparison by month.

                                          microw@piefed.zipM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          microw@piefed.zip
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                                          #20

                                          I think they mean comparing Jan 2023 with Jan 2024 and Jan 2025. Then seperately Feb 2023 with Feb 2024 and Feb 2025. Etc.

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