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  3. This story should terrify any open source project or company that allows LLM-generated code into their project.

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  • siwek@social.tooinconsistent.comS siwek@social.tooinconsistent.com

    @dpnash @david_chisnall from quick peek at github this app is also fully vibe coded slop, so I wouldn't be surprised that it's full of shit.

    Also there's a non-zero chance that the app that's supposedly plagiarised is a plagiarism in of itself, and they simply both put in the same prompts and got same output..

    It's slop all the way down.

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    @siwek@tooinconsistent.com @david_chisnall As far as I can tell, the app "bins" light pollution estimates every 0.01 degree of latitude (and possibly longitude as well, but I didn't check that variable), so there are discontinuities when that decimal rolls over. That wouldn't be too bad if the app's model for calculating light pollution levels was anything like accurate. An accurate model wouldn't jump suddently from Bortle 3 to Bortle 6 over a distance like that (0.01 degrees of latitude is only about a km) -- there's nowhere on Earth where light pollution levels change that abruptly.

    This fairly reputable source (lightpollutionmap.info) has Bortle 4 across the entire area for miles around where I was looking, with a slight brightening (still Bortle 4) in a small town and a slight darkening (close to Bortle 3 in its darkest spots) outside of town, and is *far* closer to the reality of the situation: https://www.lightpollutionmap.info/#zoom=10.18&lat=48.5140&lon=-123.0300&state=eyJiYXNlbWFwIjoiTGF5ZXJPU00iLCJvdmVybGF5Ijoic2JfMjAyNSIsIm92ZXJsYXljb2xvciI6ZmFsc2UsIm92ZXJsYXlvcGFjaXR5IjoiNjAiLCJmZWF0dXJlc29wYWNpdHkiOiI4NSJ9

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    • rzeta0@mathstodon.xyzR rzeta0@mathstodon.xyz

      @david_chisnall

      "And that’s something that requires human judgement."

      someone in microsoft is coming up with a paid extra "ai compliance centre" which will aim to do this for you.

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      @rzeta0 @david_chisnall

      And the tool won’t work, not really, but that’s not the point. The point is to be able to say that you used it and wash your hands of the responsibility. Of course this puts Microsoft the hook, but they can afford to crush any legal complaint that actually makes it that far.

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      • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

        @rzeta0 @david_chisnall

        And the tool won’t work, not really, but that’s not the point. The point is to be able to say that you used it and wash your hands of the responsibility. Of course this puts Microsoft the hook, but they can afford to crush any legal complaint that actually makes it that far.

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        @inthehands @rzeta0 @david_chisnall Your crypto secure key enclave in the form of Microsoft Pluton is coming soon, and it might follow the "trust me bro" trust model also, but we'll see I suppose

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        • dpnash@c.imD dpnash@c.im

          @siwek@tooinconsistent.com @david_chisnall As far as I can tell, the app "bins" light pollution estimates every 0.01 degree of latitude (and possibly longitude as well, but I didn't check that variable), so there are discontinuities when that decimal rolls over. That wouldn't be too bad if the app's model for calculating light pollution levels was anything like accurate. An accurate model wouldn't jump suddently from Bortle 3 to Bortle 6 over a distance like that (0.01 degrees of latitude is only about a km) -- there's nowhere on Earth where light pollution levels change that abruptly.

          This fairly reputable source (lightpollutionmap.info) has Bortle 4 across the entire area for miles around where I was looking, with a slight brightening (still Bortle 4) in a small town and a slight darkening (close to Bortle 3 in its darkest spots) outside of town, and is *far* closer to the reality of the situation: https://www.lightpollutionmap.info/#zoom=10.18&lat=48.5140&lon=-123.0300&state=eyJiYXNlbWFwIjoiTGF5ZXJPU00iLCJvdmVybGF5Ijoic2JfMjAyNSIsIm92ZXJsYXljb2xvciI6ZmFsc2UsIm92ZXJsYXlvcGFjaXR5IjoiNjAiLCJmZWF0dXJlc29wYWNpdHkiOiI4NSJ9

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          @dpnash That's really cool map, thanks for the link!

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          • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

            @dalias @david_chisnall you're right, but the damage to the legitimacy of copyright ideology is still happening.

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            @fluffykittycat @dalias @david_chisnall I don't think anyone is going to forget any time soon that when the Claude Code source code did leak, it was like a gatling gun barrage of DMCA Takedowns. "Copyright law for me, but not for thee." How utterly two faced.

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