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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

    I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

    So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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    #60

    @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social i remember thinking "wow that doesnt seem secure" when i saw the button to download bitlocker keys on my microsoft account page ​​

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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

      So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
      https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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      #61

      @GossiTheDog never trust a capitalist.

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      • froge@social.glitched.systemsF froge@social.glitched.systems

        @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social Windows charging people for a pro/enterprise license to encrypt more than the OS drive (while still uploading their keys to the cloud) is also just insane to me

        For a long time I think you had to pay for a pro license to even encrypt your drives at all, but luckily they stopped doing that, instead you get to encrypt the OS drive for free and everything else is gonna cost you a few hundred extra dollars
        💀

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        #62

        @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social oh also as a note to all the users who installed windows with a local system account instead of linking your microsoft account

        none of you have an encrypted OS drive, it just doesn't encrypt your drives by default if you do that because it can't back the keys up to MS cloud

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        • sleepybisexual@mk.absturztau.beS sleepybisexual@mk.absturztau.be

          @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be marketing

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          #63

          @sleepybisexual @GossiTheDog fair

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          • lea@lea.petL lea@lea.pet

            @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social i remember thinking "wow that doesnt seem secure" when i saw the button to download bitlocker keys on my microsoft account page ​​

            fiore@rentseeking.questF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #64
            oh my god

            CC: @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social
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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

              So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
              https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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              #65

              Anyone truly surprised? Microsoft has a history of building back doors into their products under the guise of customer service.

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              • mloxton@med-mastodon.comM mloxton@med-mastodon.com

                @GossiTheDog
                At some point, I hope that the national security guys, the techbros, and everyone in between, will come to a final fucking realization that no matter how pure your thoughts and intentions, building backdoors or skeleton keys will ALWAYS eventually wind up in the wrong hands.

                Like every time
                Always

                It is time these guys grew up and became adults

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                #66

                @mloxton @GossiTheDog …and stop dreaming about being filthy rich, it’s not equitable nor sustainable.

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                • christopherkunz@chaos.socialC christopherkunz@chaos.social

                  @jkmcnk Yup, certainly. Firing up my win machine now to see what's up with that.

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                  #67

                  @christopherkunz I call it my gaming machine, but with windows 10 going eol, I'm now researching steamos/stock linux with proton options. 🙂

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                  • christopherkunz@chaos.socialC christopherkunz@chaos.social

                    @GossiTheDog uploading the BitLocker recovery keys to the MS cloud is not default behavior, is it? Even the Forbes article states that you can opt-out of it (or do you even have to opt-in?).

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                    #68

                    @christopherkunz

                    It became the default option if you use a Microslop account a little while ago.

                    Obviously not something to worry about if you use workarounds for a local account, and I'm not sure what happens with organisational MS accounts.

                    @GossiTheDog

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                    • froge@social.glitched.systemsF froge@social.glitched.systems

                      @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social oh also as a note to all the users who installed windows with a local system account instead of linking your microsoft account

                      none of you have an encrypted OS drive, it just doesn't encrypt your drives by default if you do that because it can't back the keys up to MS cloud

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                      #69

                      @froge @GossiTheDog "By default". Rightfully so. The default should never be "you lose everything if you lose your keys". If you want an encrypted drive that you can't recover by putting it in another machine, you should have to opt in to that and understand the risks and availability-confidentiality tradeoff.

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                      • mloxton@med-mastodon.comM mloxton@med-mastodon.com

                        @GossiTheDog
                        At some point, I hope that the national security guys, the techbros, and everyone in between, will come to a final fucking realization that no matter how pure your thoughts and intentions, building backdoors or skeleton keys will ALWAYS eventually wind up in the wrong hands.

                        Like every time
                        Always

                        It is time these guys grew up and became adults

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                        #70

                        @mloxton @GossiTheDog They won't because the goal for them is never to have a working equitable sustainable system. It's to justify their adversarial existence and place on the top above responsibility, screw the people they were supposed to be protecting.

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                          So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                          https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                          #71

                          @GossiTheDog a reminder: in cyberspace, all doors are front doors.

                          https://mastodon.social/@hyc/113951142508178336

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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                            So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                            https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                            #72

                            @GossiTheDog
                            How to cancel bitlocker on Linux?

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                              So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                              https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                              #73

                              @GossiTheDog

                              Then you can send a #Copy of your #Flat-#Key right away to the #Police-#Station of your Choice, with a Note:
                              "In Case of me committing a #Crime or being suspected of doing or planning one, please go to my Flat for seizing #Evidence #instantly."
                              It's totally #obsolete to #encrypt your #System, when a #Recovery -Key is saved #unencrypted in a #Microsoft-#Cloud.

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                              • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                @froge @GossiTheDog "By default". Rightfully so. The default should never be "you lose everything if you lose your keys". If you want an encrypted drive that you can't recover by putting it in another machine, you should have to opt in to that and understand the risks and availability-confidentiality tradeoff.

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                                #74

                                @dalias@hachyderm.io @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social secure encryption will unavoidably cause you to lose everything if you lose your keys, by default....

                                but the real issue is that microsoft engineers know this, and didn't even so much as try to program a secure backup feature that doesn't expose the keys, or even give a popup in the installer warning people that their drives will be completely unencrypted and insecure by default without an MS account... or any of the 1000s other things they could do to communicate their security stance to users tbh

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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                                  So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                                  https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                                  #75

                                  @GossiTheDog wtf

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                                  • mloxton@med-mastodon.comM mloxton@med-mastodon.com

                                    @GossiTheDog
                                    At some point, I hope that the national security guys, the techbros, and everyone in between, will come to a final fucking realization that no matter how pure your thoughts and intentions, building backdoors or skeleton keys will ALWAYS eventually wind up in the wrong hands.

                                    Like every time
                                    Always

                                    It is time these guys grew up and became adults

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                                    #76

                                    @mloxton @GossiTheDog Yes, though you're giving them the benefit of the doubt that their original intentions were pure and altruistic. Personally I think the bubble that most tech bros and gals study, work, and reside in, is deeply supremacist and toxic. Nothing truly good can come out of that.

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                                    • froge@social.glitched.systemsF froge@social.glitched.systems

                                      @dalias@hachyderm.io @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social secure encryption will unavoidably cause you to lose everything if you lose your keys, by default....

                                      but the real issue is that microsoft engineers know this, and didn't even so much as try to program a secure backup feature that doesn't expose the keys, or even give a popup in the installer warning people that their drives will be completely unencrypted and insecure by default without an MS account... or any of the 1000s other things they could do to communicate their security stance to users tbh

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                                      #77

                                      @froge @GossiTheDog This is what I'm saying - that it shouldn't be on by default, only with informed consent.

                                      For the vast majority of users, losing their photos of their kids or all their personal writing or whatever is much more catastrophic than "someone who seizes my computer might see what's on it".

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