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  • vicfroh@mastodon.socialV vicfroh@mastodon.social

    #taxthebillionaires #taxtherich #TaxTheWealthy #taxthemtoextinction #TaxThemToTheGround

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    claralistensprechen3rd@friendica.myportal.social
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    #10
    @vicfroh Misinformation or not, I'm still in favor of taxing billionaires like that. Full stop.
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    • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

      @vicfroh The ridiculous thing is, if one steps back just for a split second on their greed to look at it objectively, $628 million is a freaking lot of money!

      But all the super rich can see is "how dare anyone take away any of my money!" and fight tooth and nail over every single cent of it.

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      #11

      @nazokiyoubinbou @vicfroh While at the same time, they applaud changes to the NASDAQ index so SpaceX can steal the 401k money from workers

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      • vicfroh@mastodon.socialV vicfroh@mastodon.social

        #taxthebillionaires #taxtherich #TaxTheWealthy #taxthemtoextinction #TaxThemToTheGround

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        #12

        @vicfroh

        I think he should have been taxed $2.03 billion. And come the Revolution, we abolish the goddamned lotteries. They're just another way to suction money out of the working class!

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        • jik@federate.socialJ jik@federate.social

          @vicfroh This is misinformation. Please don't spread it.
          Ref: https://federate.social/@jik/115540071566264416

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          #13

          @jik @vicfroh If the prize amount is given to you as a smaller amount if you choose the lump sum, then that difference is being taken by the government. Calling it a fee or a penalty instead of a tax is just as bad as corporations charging hidden fees after advertising a lower amount. It's effectively a tax.
          I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing that the government keeps such a large chunk of the money. Nobody needs a billion dollars.

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          • hugoestr@functional.cafeH hugoestr@functional.cafe

            @nazokiyoubinbou @vicfroh While at the same time, they applaud changes to the NASDAQ index so SpaceX can steal the 401k money from workers

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            #14

            @hugoestr @vicfroh Yep. They all are 100% willing to collude at no direct profit to themselves if they think it might someday lead to profits for the rich as a whole or if it will screw over all the 99%.

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            • vicfroh@mastodon.socialV vicfroh@mastodon.social

              #taxthebillionaires #taxtherich #TaxTheWealthy #taxthemtoextinction #TaxThemToTheGround

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              #15

              @vicfroh why not erasing usury instead?

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              • jumpmed@mastodon.socialJ jumpmed@mastodon.social

                @jik @vicfroh If the prize amount is given to you as a smaller amount if you choose the lump sum, then that difference is being taken by the government. Calling it a fee or a penalty instead of a tax is just as bad as corporations charging hidden fees after advertising a lower amount. It's effectively a tax.
                I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing that the government keeps such a large chunk of the money. Nobody needs a billion dollars.

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                #16

                @Jumpmed @jik @vicfroh
                > If the prize amount is given to you as a
                > smaller amount if you choose the lump
                > sum, then that difference is being
                > taken by the government.

                INCORRECT.

                The lottery does not have $2.04 billion in cash. They have $997.6 million. If you take the lump sum, that's what you get. If you take the 30 year payout, they put the $997.6 million into a self-amortizing annuity that pays you interest -- exactly like you would pay interest to a bank on a mortgage.

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                • jumpmed@mastodon.socialJ jumpmed@mastodon.social

                  @jik @vicfroh If the prize amount is given to you as a smaller amount if you choose the lump sum, then that difference is being taken by the government. Calling it a fee or a penalty instead of a tax is just as bad as corporations charging hidden fees after advertising a lower amount. It's effectively a tax.
                  I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing that the government keeps such a large chunk of the money. Nobody needs a billion dollars.

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                  #17

                  @Jumpmed
                  Congratulations! Your reply is such an incredible example of moving the goalposts, missing the point, and tortured (false) logic that you get to join the exclusive club of people whose first interactions with me online were also their last.
                  *plonk*

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                  • jik@federate.socialJ jik@federate.social

                    @vicfroh This is misinformation. Please don't spread it.
                    Ref: https://federate.social/@jik/115540071566264416

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                    #18

                    @jik
                    Thanks. The numbers didn't make sense as the op presented. I can't imagine more than 50% tax rate applying to anyone ever in the USA.

                    I assumed he must have taken a lump sum to get such a high withholding.

                    @vicfroh

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                    • vicfroh@mastodon.socialV vicfroh@mastodon.social

                      #taxthebillionaires #taxtherich #TaxTheWealthy #taxthemtoextinction #TaxThemToTheGround

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                      #19

                      @vicfroh Net present value is nasty. It is like a mortgage in reverse. The advertised amount is the sum of all the payments.

                      That does not protect you from going broke either. If you hit the lottery you will be contacted by lenders who will be happy to give you the money up front and take your future winnings.

                      A surprising number of people are broke a few years after hitting the jackpot.

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                      • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

                        @vicfroh The ridiculous thing is, if one steps back just for a split second on their greed to look at it objectively, $628 million is a freaking lot of money!

                        But all the super rich can see is "how dare anyone take away any of my money!" and fight tooth and nail over every single cent of it.

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                        #20

                        @nazokiyoubinbou @vicfroh considering that you can live comfortably without ever having to work again with 10M, anything over 10 is a ridiculous amount.

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                        • vicfroh@mastodon.socialV vicfroh@mastodon.social

                          #taxthebillionaires #taxtherich #TaxTheWealthy #taxthemtoextinction #TaxThemToTheGround

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                          #21

                          @vicfroh

                          So, who really won?

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