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  3. There's this myth that automated spam detection is hard because spammers are all very clever masters of disguise.

There's this myth that automated spam detection is hard because spammers are all very clever masters of disguise.

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  • danslimmon@hachyderm.ioD danslimmon@hachyderm.io

    There's this myth that automated spam detection is hard because spammers are all very clever masters of disguise.

    No. Spammers are stupid as a shoe. They have dog shit for brains.

    Automated spam detection is hard because the line between spam and "legitimate" marketing activity is a fiction.

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    @danslimmon @ielenia ah you see .. just block all "legitimate" marketing activity too

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    • marjolica@social.linux.pizzaM marjolica@social.linux.pizza

      @jrdepriest @azonenberg @danslimmon not my experience.
      Over the last 4 weeks I rejected 16.3% of emails.
      Of that 1.9% were replied 4.7.1 (try again later) and 0.4% were replied 5.7.1 (spam) and ended up in my spam folders to review.

      On the other hand 13.4% lacked a reverse hostname. The great majority of those were from China (.cn). Only one was from a (UK) site I have bought from.

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      @marjolica howdy, how’s it going with you ?

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      • pitrh@mastodon.socialP pitrh@mastodon.social

        @danslimmon I personally find that greylisting + greytrapping removes the obvious ones, and saves a lot of electricity plus wear and tear on the poor servers doing content and header filtering.

        My greytrapping and misc retrospective is hopefully useful to others too: Eighteen Years of Greytrapping - Is the Weirdness Finally Paying Off? https://nxdomain.no/~peter/eighteen_years_of_greytrapping.html - with references at the end.

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        @pitrh hello, how’s it going with you ?

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        • jeffgrigg@mastodon.socialJ jeffgrigg@mastodon.social

          @danslimmon

          A number of times, at a number of different organizations, I've asked *my employer* (and their partners) to please do a better job with their email requests for action so as *NOT* to "check off" a number of issues in their emails that are literally in their own required computer security training. 💢

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          @JeffGrigg
          This. The problem is not with distinguishing spam from "marketing activity", but that the line between spam and ANY business email activity is rapidly moving closer to fiction.
          @danslimmon

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