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  • rickitarr@beige.partyR rickitarr@beige.party

    Never forget that the stock market, the foundation of our modern economy, is just bros that tricked people into paying them to gamble.

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    #4

    @RickiTarr https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euronext_Amsterdam#History

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    • rickitarr@beige.partyR rickitarr@beige.party

      Never forget that the stock market, the foundation of our modern economy, is just bros that tricked people into paying them to gamble.

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      #5

      @RickiTarr You speak the absolute truth, @RickiTarr.

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      • corbden@defcon.socialC corbden@defcon.social

        @RickiTarr It's worse than gambling when said bros also have control over the magnet under the roulette wheel, and can use it to steal your money and put it in their pocket.

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        #6

        @corbden @RickiTarr

        "The stock market looks like gambling, but it's actually fraud"

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        • rickitarr@beige.partyR rickitarr@beige.party

          Never forget that the stock market, the foundation of our modern economy, is just bros that tricked people into paying them to gamble.

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          @RickiTarr I have to disagree on this one. I started my 401k in the early nineties. The small private company that I worked for (40 employees) matched up to 6% of the salary that you contributed. That was like a free 6% raise. I invested in low cost index funds and over twenty five years I built quite a nice nest egg for retirement.

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          • pitd@mstdn.socialP pitd@mstdn.social

            @RickiTarr I have to disagree on this one. I started my 401k in the early nineties. The small private company that I worked for (40 employees) matched up to 6% of the salary that you contributed. That was like a free 6% raise. I invested in low cost index funds and over twenty five years I built quite a nice nest egg for retirement.

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            #8

            @RickiTarr I know it's not a pension and there are plenty of shenanigans going on with manipulation and insider trades, but if you're not constantly buying and selling where transaction fees eat away at returns it is still a great place to invest. Not a bro talking just a simple mechanic that worked for a living.

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            • rickitarr@beige.partyR rickitarr@beige.party

              Never forget that the stock market, the foundation of our modern economy, is just bros that tricked people into paying them to gamble.

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              #9

              @RickiTarr 💯 it's truly amazing to try to talk to people about this. Gaslighting at the highest extreme

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              • rickitarr@beige.partyR rickitarr@beige.party

                Never forget that the stock market, the foundation of our modern economy, is just bros that tricked people into paying them to gamble.

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                #10

                @RickiTarr
                When you engage in a purchase or barter it is a relationship between three entities: the receiver, the provider and the commodity and each of these entities must benefit from the relationship.

                *For investments or healthcare or banking or insurance or corporations the foundation is always shared risk / shared reward that this has been corrupted to cause so much harm to people and our home is an acceptance of the greed to always want more of anything.
                We can change that.

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                • rickitarr@beige.partyR rickitarr@beige.party

                  Never forget that the stock market, the foundation of our modern economy, is just bros that tricked people into paying them to gamble.

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                  #11

                  @RickiTarr

                  And they selected the Bronzed Aged Gozer as their destructor.
                  Trump bankrupts casinos for a living.
                  ETTD.
                  There is no exception as yet.

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                  • rickitarr@beige.partyR rickitarr@beige.party

                    Never forget that the stock market, the foundation of our modern economy, is just bros that tricked people into paying them to gamble.

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                    #12

                    @RickiTarr they're gambling with your 401k and insurance premiums, btw

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                    • rickitarr@beige.partyR rickitarr@beige.party

                      Never forget that the stock market, the foundation of our modern economy, is just bros that tricked people into paying them to gamble.

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                      #13

                      @RickiTarr I think about that all the time. I'm increasingly patting myself on the back for not being exposed (as opposed to feeling shame because I wasn't "smart" enough to invest). But everything is such god damned froth, I don't think anyone is not exposed.

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                      • O oshox@mastodon.social

                        @RickiTarr they're gambling with your 401k and insurance premiums, btw

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                        #14

                        @oshox And they're just itching to tie it to crypto because of course they are.
                        @RickiTarr

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                        • ggmcbg@mstdn.plusG ggmcbg@mstdn.plus

                          @RickiTarr

                          And they selected the Bronzed Aged Gozer as their destructor.
                          Trump bankrupts casinos for a living.
                          ETTD.
                          There is no exception as yet.

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                          #15

                          @GGMcBG @RickiTarr you get paid for that? 😏

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                          • rickitarr@beige.partyR rickitarr@beige.party

                            Never forget that the stock market, the foundation of our modern economy, is just bros that tricked people into paying them to gamble.

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                            @RickiTarr i like to classify it as a ponzi scheme.

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                            • pitd@mstdn.socialP pitd@mstdn.social

                              @RickiTarr I have to disagree on this one. I started my 401k in the early nineties. The small private company that I worked for (40 employees) matched up to 6% of the salary that you contributed. That was like a free 6% raise. I invested in low cost index funds and over twenty five years I built quite a nice nest egg for retirement.

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                              #17

                              @pitd

                              you are 1000% correct but... sour grapes is a thing, and people who have sat out the biggest bull market of all time (& potentially the biggest bull market there will ever be) are understandably going to indulge in it rather than admit they were just... wrong & lost out on millions as a result

                              low cost index funds investing asks only that society / technology continue to improve in ways that add value & thus continue the random walk upward

                              unfortunately the attack on science will likely put paid to that premise for future generations but there was no "gamble" involved for ours, just math and a relatively stable / well policed investing environment + improving technology

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                              • rickitarr@beige.partyR rickitarr@beige.party

                                Never forget that the stock market, the foundation of our modern economy, is just bros that tricked people into paying them to gamble.

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                                @RickiTarr

                                the foundation of our modern economy was developing more value (better technology) + a relatively stable and well-policed regulatory environment so that people could invest in their future

                                the GOP is destroying those things NOW & thus the stock market may indeed be gambling in the future (just as it was in the previous era of tariffs & GOP corruption) but it is not inherently a form of gambling when correctly regulated

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                                • rickitarr@beige.partyR rickitarr@beige.party

                                  Never forget that the stock market, the foundation of our modern economy, is just bros that tricked people into paying them to gamble.

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                                  @RickiTarr 👍

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                                  • peachfront@mas.toP peachfront@mas.to

                                    @pitd

                                    you are 1000% correct but... sour grapes is a thing, and people who have sat out the biggest bull market of all time (& potentially the biggest bull market there will ever be) are understandably going to indulge in it rather than admit they were just... wrong & lost out on millions as a result

                                    low cost index funds investing asks only that society / technology continue to improve in ways that add value & thus continue the random walk upward

                                    unfortunately the attack on science will likely put paid to that premise for future generations but there was no "gamble" involved for ours, just math and a relatively stable / well policed investing environment + improving technology

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                                    @peachfront agree, I certainly had the advantages of generally good returns, but the big one was no student loan debt. My first generation of immigrant parents came of age during the depression and WW2. They had and taught me a healthy disrespect for banks. Debt was dreaded. Saddling 20 yr olds with years of debt is a horrible way to start life.

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                                    • pitd@mstdn.socialP pitd@mstdn.social

                                      @peachfront agree, I certainly had the advantages of generally good returns, but the big one was no student loan debt. My first generation of immigrant parents came of age during the depression and WW2. They had and taught me a healthy disrespect for banks. Debt was dreaded. Saddling 20 yr olds with years of debt is a horrible way to start life.

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                                      @pitd

                                      fully agree about the debt issue

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                                      • rickitarr@beige.partyR rickitarr@beige.party

                                        Never forget that the stock market, the foundation of our modern economy, is just bros that tricked people into paying them to gamble.

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                                        #22

                                        @RickiTarr

                                        'However, there were many ways of making money in 1928. Never had there been a better time to get rich, and people knew it. 1928, indeed, was the last year in which Americans were buoyant, uninhibited, and utterly happy. It wasn’t that 1928 was too good to last; it was only that it didn’t last.

                                        In the January issue of World’s Work, Will Payne, after reflecting on the wonders of the year just over, went on to explain the difference between a gambler and an investor. A gambler, he pointed out, wins only because someone else loses. Where it is investment all gain. One investor, he explained, buys General Motors at $100, sells it to another at $150, who sells it to a third at $200. Everyone makes money. As Walter Bagehot once observed: “All people are most credulous when they are most happy.”'

                                        The Great Crash 1929, John Kenneth Galbraith

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                                        • pitd@mstdn.socialP pitd@mstdn.social

                                          @RickiTarr I know it's not a pension and there are plenty of shenanigans going on with manipulation and insider trades, but if you're not constantly buying and selling where transaction fees eat away at returns it is still a great place to invest. Not a bro talking just a simple mechanic that worked for a living.

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                                          #23

                                          @pitd @RickiTarr Both these things can be true. You used some of your hard earned money to pay bros to gamble, and got more money back.

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