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  3. Never forget that the stock market, the foundation of our modern economy, is just bros that tricked people into paying them to gamble.

Never forget that the stock market, the foundation of our modern economy, is just bros that tricked people into paying them to gamble.

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  • pitd@mstdn.socialP pitd@mstdn.social

    @peachfront agree, I certainly had the advantages of generally good returns, but the big one was no student loan debt. My first generation of immigrant parents came of age during the depression and WW2. They had and taught me a healthy disrespect for banks. Debt was dreaded. Saddling 20 yr olds with years of debt is a horrible way to start life.

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    @pitd

    fully agree about the debt issue

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    • rickitarr@beige.partyR rickitarr@beige.party

      Never forget that the stock market, the foundation of our modern economy, is just bros that tricked people into paying them to gamble.

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      #22

      @RickiTarr

      'However, there were many ways of making money in 1928. Never had there been a better time to get rich, and people knew it. 1928, indeed, was the last year in which Americans were buoyant, uninhibited, and utterly happy. It wasn’t that 1928 was too good to last; it was only that it didn’t last.

      In the January issue of World’s Work, Will Payne, after reflecting on the wonders of the year just over, went on to explain the difference between a gambler and an investor. A gambler, he pointed out, wins only because someone else loses. Where it is investment all gain. One investor, he explained, buys General Motors at $100, sells it to another at $150, who sells it to a third at $200. Everyone makes money. As Walter Bagehot once observed: “All people are most credulous when they are most happy.”'

      The Great Crash 1929, John Kenneth Galbraith

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      • pitd@mstdn.socialP pitd@mstdn.social

        @RickiTarr I know it's not a pension and there are plenty of shenanigans going on with manipulation and insider trades, but if you're not constantly buying and selling where transaction fees eat away at returns it is still a great place to invest. Not a bro talking just a simple mechanic that worked for a living.

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        #23

        @pitd @RickiTarr Both these things can be true. You used some of your hard earned money to pay bros to gamble, and got more money back.

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        • rickitarr@beige.partyR rickitarr@beige.party

          Never forget that the stock market, the foundation of our modern economy, is just bros that tricked people into paying them to gamble.

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          #24

          @RickiTarr I do wonder what a stock market without derivatives trading and related "financial interests" would look like.

          I don't really have a problem with "Person A invests €X into business B and gains from future profits", but the easily manipulated betting and insider trading just seems obviously dodgy as all heck.

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          • rickitarr@beige.partyR rickitarr@beige.party

            Never forget that the stock market, the foundation of our modern economy, is just bros that tricked people into paying them to gamble.

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            #25

            @RickiTarr
            everybody knows that the dice are loaded 🎲
            everybody rolls with their fingers crossed 🤞🏻

            everybody knows the fight is over 🥊
            everybody knows the good guys lost

            everybody knows the fight was fixed
            the poor stay poor, the rich get rich 🏚️ 🎩

            that's how it goes, everybody knows

            everybody knows the deal is rotten
            old black joe's still picking cotton
            for your ribbons and bows
            and everybody knows

            everybody knows the plague is coming 😷

            everybody knows the naked man and woman are just a shining artifact of the past

            that there's gonna be a meter on your bed 🛏️
            that will disclose
            what everybody knows

            ~Leonard Cohen

            but I like the Sigrid version. boo! shame on me!

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfLOt5P6nSk

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            • normjess@tech.lgbtN normjess@tech.lgbt

              @RickiTarr
              everybody knows that the dice are loaded 🎲
              everybody rolls with their fingers crossed 🤞🏻

              everybody knows the fight is over 🥊
              everybody knows the good guys lost

              everybody knows the fight was fixed
              the poor stay poor, the rich get rich 🏚️ 🎩

              that's how it goes, everybody knows

              everybody knows the deal is rotten
              old black joe's still picking cotton
              for your ribbons and bows
              and everybody knows

              everybody knows the plague is coming 😷

              everybody knows the naked man and woman are just a shining artifact of the past

              that there's gonna be a meter on your bed 🛏️
              that will disclose
              what everybody knows

              ~Leonard Cohen

              but I like the Sigrid version. boo! shame on me!

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfLOt5P6nSk

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              @normjess It's okay, I like the Elizabeth and the Catapults version, but the words remain important.

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              • rickitarr@beige.partyR rickitarr@beige.party

                @normjess It's okay, I like the Elizabeth and the Catapults version, but the words remain important.

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                #27

                @RickiTarr And I like Concrete Blonde's version. 🙂 @normjess https://youtu.be/l5Fb4K8pNmg

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