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  • paulatothepeople@climatejustice.socialP paulatothepeople@climatejustice.social

    @MikeElgan I'd love to see stats added on how much profit they create for the fossil industry and how much funding they get from the fossil industry.

    Because that's the AI buisness model. Without AI we'd have energy transition.

    PS: Also alt text would be nice for inclusivity (not AI written of course).

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    #13

    @PaulaToThePeople @MikeElgan

    That's one aspect - #AI as a fossil fuel support industry.
    Secondly, killing off the free information web, journalism, art, creativity for good - that's worth the initial losses.

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    • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

      Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

      #MachineSociety

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      #14

      @MikeElgan they're so generous for us

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      • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

        @MikeElgan So Nvidia's making a killing...?!

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        #15

        @dancingtreefrog
        In a gold rush sell the shovels.

        …only that in this rush the leftover shovels can't be used for something else at the same scale.

        Edit: unless by “making a killing” you mean “planning to murder us all for profit”.

        @MikeElgan

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        • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

          Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

          #MachineSociety

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          #16

          @MikeElgan
          CC: @davidgerard

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          • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

            Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

            #MachineSociety

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            #17

            @MikeElgan
            And who's holding the neadle?

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            • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

              Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

              #MachineSociety

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              #18

              @MikeElgan #ALT4you
              Partial screenshot of the linked page. It lists companies investing into AI. It shows as a bar chart how much they spent and earned from the technology. The list is sorted by spending.

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              • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                #MachineSociety

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                #19

                @MikeElgan For them it is ok as long as they can still fire people, makeing folks addicted, selling there Shit (their philosophie) for true to consumers, pretend that machines can be creative and emphatic. This is the biggest fake news industry ever.

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                • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                  Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                  #MachineSociety

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                  #20

                  @MikeElgan
                  That Meta income rounding down to zero is the funniest. The company that's running its flagship website into the ground and spent billions on a VR 'verse that they canned after a month can't make income from AI? I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

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                  • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                    Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                    #MachineSociety

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                    #21

                    @MikeElgan Hmm I wonder who's benefiting from all this wasteful bullshit

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                    • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                      Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                      #MachineSociety

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                      #22

                      @MikeElgan I first thought: bizarre, 1400 spent and 600 revenue, but the graphs say it's way less than half. Then I saw the winer at the bottom: NVIDIA. They have all the revenue.

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                      • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                        Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                        #MachineSociety

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                        #23

                        @MikeElgan
                        Apart from NVidia, these sums would be a massive economical booster program, if the money went into real world businesses.

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                        • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                          Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                          #MachineSociety

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                          #24

                          这网站挺直观的,红绿对比一看就知道烧钱有多猛。AI搞到现在到底能不能赚钱,感觉还早得很啊。

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                          • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                            Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                            #MachineSociety

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                            #25

                            @MikeElgan
                            No, surely that can’t be right. Because the #SpaceX S-1 filing says the market for xAI applications is $22700 billion. And that’s gospel!

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                            • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                              Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                              #MachineSociety

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                              #26

                              @MikeElgan as Putin would say: "It is not a fall it is a negative growth"

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                              • T thefeditest@mastodon.social

                                @MikeElgan as Putin would say: "It is not a fall it is a negative growth"

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                                #27

                                @MikeElgan 🤣

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                                • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                                  Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                                  #MachineSociety

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                                  #28

                                  @MikeElgan Funny how OpenAI in this context looks almost profitable yet it's often predicted to go down first

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                                  • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                                    Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                                    #MachineSociety

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                                    #29

                                    @MikeElgan that's a great visualisation. So #Nvidia is the only company shown that is profiting. I wonder which other sectors or companies are raking it in. I was thinking cloud, but look at Amazon. Surely some are profiting? And 👍 to see where the funding is coming from.

                                    Also, I hope he'll add a time based graph so we can watch the trend, but this is awesome.

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                                    • assimilateborg@kind.socialA assimilateborg@kind.social

                                      @MikeElgan I first thought: bizarre, 1400 spent and 600 revenue, but the graphs say it's way less than half. Then I saw the winer at the bottom: NVIDIA. They have all the revenue.

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                                      #30

                                      @assimilateborg @MikeElgan Well... maybe. NVIDIA seems to be lending money to the frontier corporations in order to buy its own hardware, creating circular spending that inflates its stock price.

                                      https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2026-ai-circular-deals/

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                                      • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                                        Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                                        #MachineSociety

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                                        #31

                                        @MikeElgan Can we get NVidia and Micron in there for a bit of balance please ?

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                                        • mikeelgan@mastodon.socialM mikeelgan@mastodon.social

                                          Now you can keep track of how many billions the AI companies are losing on AI. (Red is spending, green is revenue.) https://isaiprofitable.com/

                                          #MachineSociety

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                                          #32

                                          @MikeElgan

                                          Imagine all that money being spent on healthcare, education, housing, infrastructure, sustainable energy and poverty?

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